EP 48: It was hanger, not flank, and the other largely useless information.

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Transcript

Miami’s Origin Story And Mythmaking

SPEAKER_00 0:00

All right. So yeah, I sent a couple of notes to our chat today so I won't so I don't forget. So I had a buddy of mine um call me from from Pennsylvania. Right? Call me early in the morning till like at seven o'clock in the morning. He sent me a text yesterday of a video of like like cocaine cowboys type situation. Um and uh this morning called me early. He's like, hey, did you see what I sent you yesterday? I'm like, no. He's like, did you know that like Miami was like, you know, they're saying that Miami was, you know, uh made by like drug money and like so it was like this whole thing has been it was new to him, you know. This whole thing where where Miami, you know, was was built on drug money. So um, you know, I I started explaining to him the whole history of it and everything. And then I started thinking about like, man, Miami's an interesting place. So so we have to go back to like Brickle, we have to go back to like Flagler, we have to go back to who are the other founding fathers of uh of uh Fisher, um, you know, all of those guys that like the guys who who you know the first round of Miami, which was what, the 1930s Cadillac, probably?

SPEAKER_03 1:06

It's before that. I mean, it was the late 1800s when uh the thing with with Florida is our part of Florida in particular is that it kind of went in booms and busts, and that pattern actually seems to continue. Uh, that it has, you know, its moment in the sun, and then something happens and people veer away from it, and then they come back to it. Uh, so there's been a lot of that. There's it's it's interesting seeing the pictures of how it's developed over time.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Yeah, Richard actually gave me a cool picture. Where the hell did it go? Somewhere here in the office of um of uh a real estate company, right? It has a sign of a real estate company, old wood structure, dirt road in front, and then a guy like sitting on an alligator in front of the thing. Like I guess they caught the alligator. Richard, Richard sent me that one day, a long time ago. Um, but so I started thinking about the three stages of Miami. So let's call that stage one, right? Then, you know, the whole thing of Magic City, where you know it kind of burnt down and recreated itself. I don't know if we I don't know if we want to call that a stage, but then it was 1980s, drug, war zone, Colombia, Cuba, uh, you know, billions of dollars in the banking system. That was we could consider it stage two. And I think we're in stage three right now, which is tech money, big corporate money coming in and turning it into you know the new New York. And and I don't want to upset Richard with that, but it it is it is the new New York. It's it's taking over.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

You're the one that hates New York.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

I don't want to, I'm just saying, I don't I I you're right. I don't want to upset you by saying that we're taking over, we're taking over New York. Like we are we are the new New York. Like the new the big the big companies are starting to move down here, the big money is starting to move down here, the big events are starting to happen here, and people are you know running away from from uh the future of of New York. You I know you're gonna disagree with that. That's why I said I don't want to upset you, but I think there's a couple of there's a couple of things.

SPEAKER_03 3:08

One, I I like that that the pattern that you have. I would just kind of go back one step further. Um, I I think that Miami as a retirement place, all you know Oh, yes, I said the Jews, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

The the Jews in Miami Beach. I I I I was talking to him. I I was talking to him about the stages. I uh when the when the Cubans got here and the Colombians got here, it was all Jewish, Miami Beach, 80% Jewish, retiree, you know, type of stuff. Uh that's definitely a stage.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Yeah, that was definitely the retirement community, like through the from the 50s to the 70s, a lot of the the Teamsters money came down, built a lot of the stuff down here. Bell Harbor, uh South Beach became, but I mean South Beach 25 years ago was like 30 years ago was like a retirement community. I mean, you went down, there was all old people, I mean, it was like God's waiting room. Uh and then it kind of turned into the uh what we think of of South Beach today. And then I think that this is actually another iteration that's kind of coming back to back with that, because that it was still kind of a fun leisure place, but what you're talking about now is kind of a transition to business and being a business hub, which is really not something that Miami in the past has been known

From Leisure Town To Business Hub

SPEAKER_03 4:19

for. And I think it's getting a little bit more of a reputation for that. And frankly, I mean the the thing that I saw the other day, they just froze rent on all the rent control properties in New York for two years. Um and I was reading.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

That's really, really good for the economy. Oh, really good for business.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

Yeah. Uh Sergey Brin that just sold out his position that he had in a big management company there in New York at six cents on the dollar, is what they just bought him out at, just to get out. And um, so I I I think that they're, you know, there's kind of a sense, and I think you even see this with like old associations. Like you look at the condo associations, and they they have these rules that are super restrictive. And if you look, it's just like there's fewer and fewer people that kind of want to put up with it. And so like other buildings start to do better, like rent restrictions, pet restrictions, all these things. There's people that want to, people that don't, but there just tends to be more and more rules that wind up on the books, and nobody kind of comes in and like says, eh, do we really need this anymore?

SPEAKER_00 5:22

Yeah, and it's interesting because there's people there's people there there's people that say that we shouldn't pick teams, right? Um, on this whole political. But has there ever been a situation where the Republican Party has done rent control or you know, situations like that, like like it's happening in New York now? Has that ever happened? Say it again. I'm sorry, I missed that. Yeah, that you know, again, that there's people out there that that say we shouldn't pick teams, right? But you know, it it seems to me like the the the Republican Party has never been the the one to put rent restrictions or that type of stuff on there that that really affects business the the way it does, like like New York, like it's happening in New York right now.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

I mean, it that it's true. I mean, the the th the thing is, right? You have one party that that their position is we're progressive. We're the one that create progress, and there's place for progress, obviously. The thing is that it's it's usually progress at any cost without any like looking back to see whether we actually the progress was progress or regression a little bit. And so, you know, like they've progressed the education system so far. I mean, let's be clear with each other. The i it was the left that that has owned academia for a long time, and they've progressed it to being far worse than it ever was. So the progress has actually led to regression. So that's really the big, the big question mark is you know, like, are we looking at the progress, air quotes, and certain that we're making and making sure it is genuinely progress or or it's actually netting worse results than what we started with. And and rent control is one of those things that they've just never looked at what the net results of it really was, which is less affordable housing. That's always what been what rent control.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

I wonder, I wonder if Miami, because of uh everything that's happening now and all these big tech companies right now, I wonder if it's almost like a uh a fact that at some point we're gonna turn left because it it's it's we pulled the majority of the left, or not the majority, we pulled a ton of left out of New York and and places like California and everything like that, and we moved them over here. Is it unrealistic to think that we are at some point we're we're not gonna just turn left? I mean, you know, it's it's it's uh that that that does concern me. You know, it doesn't seem like to be something in the near future. Hey, didn't we have like another Richard? Didn't we have like another thousand more registered Republicans than a million than than we had before or something like that? I don't know the answer.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

You don't know the answer. I mean, I I think that what what winds up happening is that um people with time cease appreciating what they have. Uh and and I think that like a lot of what you see right now in in New York in particular is just folks that don't remember that uh that they tried all this stuff and and it it worked really, really badly and it caused bad results. And because they they just don't have the historical context to to remember that hey, this is nothing new. This is all these are all ideas that somebody has has taken out of a of an old history book, brought them back up, and it's been long enough, and you have so little historical context that you don't realize these are just old bad ideas.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

Um recycled bad ideas.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

It is, with a new face on it. I mean, the only hope that there really is is that technology comes along and allows them to somehow enforce this better than they have in the past. But but short of that, I mean, all these ideas are are nothing new.

The $48 Million Commission Verdict

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Yeah, the um did you guys see the the the link that I sent earlier today? Uh the um the the $48 million lawsuit. Yeah. So Richard, did you see that? Because I do need you on this one. I need you to stop typing for a second on this one. The um uh $48 million uh uh um award awarded $48 million for a for an $84 million uh commission. $84,000. $84,000, sorry. $84,000 and uh $6 million of it was punitive damages, right? What do you think of that, Richard? Because I mean, listen, I we I've been through shit like that before where we actually I went with Nick actually and we ended up winning one of those where we put in an offer, okay? Offer was accepted. Um person cancels it, or before right before it gets accepted, they cancel it. Um, and then they go and they put somebody else with that same buyer. They basically take your buyer and close the deal without you, right? Like obviously wrong, but that happens in Miami all the time. That's just almost regular uh means of operation in Miami. But man, that's how does it get to that amount, Richard?

SPEAKER_01 9:56

I don't know. I I don't think that amount will hold up.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Yeah, but how do they even how does that calculate how do they get to that calculation?

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Computative damages are not really based on any measurable damage, they're designed to punish. So whatever the jury thinks is appropriate, punishment.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

So the so the jury has to say, hey, we we think this was so bad that you have to pay $26 million.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

And then there will be these post there are post-trial motions. If you if you have get a verdict and you think the verdict is too low, you can file a motion for what's called additor. A D D I T U R additor. And and that's a motion that the judge will rule on that says, hey, the verdict is too so is the the award is too small. There's some reason why it doesn't comport to the damages that we approved. So the judge can increase the award. Then there's the opposite motion, it's called remititor. And remititor is says, hey, this amount has no relation to the evidence, it's it's way more than like what it should have been, and you know, you you need to reduce it, and and you know, the judge can do that. I don't see a way that this verdict holds up. In fact, the the lawyer is is a firm called the Sun Law Group, S-O-N-N, and it's like all over their webpage. And even they even their write-up expressed some skepticism about that award being held up.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

Right, but what I'm saying is like is there from $48,000 commission to that that much it where does that like that where did they calculate that from? They just sat the jury sat down and said, We think it's worth this much? That just like that.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

No idea, buddy. I wasn't there, but yeah, tip again, punitive damages don't have to have any basis in proven damage.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

No calculation, right? Okay. No mathematical equation.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

There's no calculation, it's just that it doesn't like if you broke your leg and they get the award proof punitive damages, it's not because of how much you suffered with a broken leg. It's to punish. Literally to punish. And it's to deter that kind of conduct from repeating itself.

SPEAKER_03 12:17

It's like the what the mob does when you snitch on them. They make an example of you.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Right. So now, so now the process is that now it'll go to a judge, and the judge actually decides what is a real number.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

If they file a motion for remititor, yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Which they will, right? I'm assuming. I mean, you gotta be, I mean, nobody's gonna sit there and take it, say, all right, yeah, I'm I'm gonna pay forty-eight million dollars. So now they come up to a number, Richard, and it's like, I don't know, two million dollars. So then now now they have to pay. How how does that usually work? When do they have to pay that? How long do they have to pay it? How long do they have to pay it?

SPEAKER_01 12:50

And there's no terms, bro. When you suffer a money judgment, it's all due immediately.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Immediately.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Yeah, now whether or not you have the money is something else, or whether or not you're collectible, maybe they file for bankruptcy. I mean, all those entities were probably single purpose entities that don't have a whole lot by way of assets. Maybe the property's there and can be sold, you know. Um the individuals probably file for bankruptcy. I mean, no one's gonna sit there and pony up 48 million bucks, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

Uh a puric victory. Victory in danger.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

When you suffer a judgment, they can garnish your bank accounts, they can garnish your wages. I mean, there are there are some exempt assets, but um homestead property would be exempt, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

Yeah. Yeah.

How Miami Business Gets Done

SPEAKER_00 13:43

I mean, look, it it's again, I I've been in situations like that. Um, you know, I I was having a conversation with somebody this morning, like how how Miami, you know, in comparison to, you know, other parts of the United States, New York, I don't I don't I hate to keep on picking on New York, but um it would always it was brought up early in my career. Oh, New York's the most the most difficult place. If you could do business in New York, you could do business everywhere. Man, let me tell you something. Come do business in Miami where a contract is just a suggestion, where fraud and and and and that tri type of trickery is is just part of the everyday business, and and specifically in specific cities or counties within Miami, because we say Miami, but what is Miami exactly?

SPEAKER_01 14:30

Miami is really there's only one county.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Right. Well, Miami Dade, there's Miami Dade County, there's Broward, right. What I'm saying, we say we say Miami. I was motherfucker. I was just going to say what when you say Miami, and I was gonna go through the list of shit. Like, can you not interrupt before you fucking I finish my thought? Before you try to make me fucking sound stupid. You know, it's it's just his his his need, his his absolute just fucking like like like necessity to to try to like just seem smart. It just can't he can't stop himself. But dude, so I listened to this wrestling podcast. Um uh and man, it's just three of them just like us right there, and they have gone at it the other day. They fucking started like they they ended up posting it, which was pretty interesting, but they ended up motherfucking each other. I mean, like if they would have been in person, they would have come to blows, and it was pretty fascinating to watch. Yeah, you're a fucking idiot. No, you're a fucking idiot. I mean, it was it was pretty it was pretty funny. So we haven't come to that yet, but yet. Um, so uh so yeah, I mean, what anything else you guys have in mind? I mean, uh obviously uh I've brought up two points. Uh I'm sure Richard has a list of of of ideas that he wants to bring up that he wanted to talk about today.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

No, you brought up two points. What was the first one?

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Well, I was just talking about my buddy that uh yeah, you were typing the whole way through. My my maybe you can lend some feedback on this. So my I I got a call, I got an email or a text from a buddy of mine from Pennsylvania uh last night uh on a video on the whole cocaine cowboys, you know, that whole era of Miami.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

The three phases.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Yeah, and then he and then he, you know, like he just discovered this whole thing. And then, you know, again, 7 a.m. today, he starts, you know, hey man, did you know about this and did you know about that? And really fascinated with it. So yeah, I I it just got me to thinking how you know, and again, Richard, I want to make sure we're clear. When I say Miami, I say South Florida. Okay, but like when when when was Miami was?

SPEAKER_01 16:27

That's a big the whole South Florida is Miami?

SPEAKER_00 16:29

The whole the whole South Florida, because when when when uh when Flagler got here, where did Flagler land? When that railroad did where did it start? Right? I I know where it started, but where did it land first? Did it land in Broward? Did it land in Miami? Did it where did it land? Did it land in Brickle? I don't I don't know the answer to that, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:45

So no, that much is clear because it didn't land anywhere near Miami.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Where did it land?

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Way up north in the state, bro. Have you ever heard of Julia Telegram?

SPEAKER_00 16:54

No, no, no. St. Augustine. I'm not talking about St. Augustine, I'm talking about when it got down here. It it it got down here eventually.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

Yeah, no shit. It got to Flagler Street, which is why it's called that.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Right. Okay, so there you go. So is that that so that's considered Miami, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

Yes, Flagler is is is in the city of Miami, yes. I mean, part of it at least.

SPEAKER_00 17:17

Okay, so what did I say wrong there? Just just out of curiosity.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

I mean, the list is long. I I'm just not I'm just not sure what what it is that you were why why is Broward Miami?

SPEAKER_00 17:30

It's not. South Florida. So when again, when you're interrupted me before when you're when you're inter Broward is South Florida, but it's not Miami. Because when you fucking interrupted me before, I was gonna switch. When I when you interrupted me before, I was gonna switch to South Florida, and then you just stopped me. What is that? He's saying something wrong. Let me catch him before he fixes it, right? So then now, and now I'm talking about the railroad, right? So the railroad landed in Flagler, right? So we could say, so my question was so when did that happen exactly? What year did that happen in the 18 uh late 1800s, Cadillac?

SPEAKER_02 18:06

I think so. I would imagine. Uh, it's not uh that's not my normal brand of history, but right.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

So yeah, so I would just Richard, just back on the whole fucking thing, since you asked what what the first conversation, first thing I brought up was, since you haven't brought up shit, was was uh the you know um the the phases, right? Like what phase was that? That was the initial phase, and and you know, and and and the and the and the founders of of Miami, like the the Brickle family and and and you know, things like that. So that was definitely one phase, right? Um, and then I don't know if we should even fast forward all the way to you know, we I I guess we fast forwarded almost all the way to the Jewish people and the 1980s or 60s and 70s and 80s. Was there's also a mob era here, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:52

1930s.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

1930s was like the Al Capone. Yeah, yeah, in other words, like I guess we could call that we could call that an era.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

Yeah, there was the 30s was hot. The 40s you had a huge pullback with World War II, the 50s it started being retirement community, 60s and 7 or vacation community, 60s and 70s became the kind of the retirement community, 80s was cocaine cowboys, 1990s was not great for Florida in general as far as sales. By the way, I I looked it up, it's eighteen ninety-six, so it was was right there on the 1896 what? Flagler April 50th when the Florida East Coast Railway officially brought the railroad to Miami. Uh to Miami. Yep. Okay. Right. And it did I I think and that's kind of the question I want to ask Rich because uh I know that you you're connected down there and kind of I I I feel like much of the boom of Florida previous to recently ha has largely been, once again, kind of like that vacation lifestyle, kind of a place that people come when they have money to kind of get away. Uh but as far as like a business community, I feel like that's I'm I'm starting to hear and see more of that kind of investment recently, more so like COVID, post-COVID kind of era, maybe even a little bit before that with the crypto guys, although they they kind of disappeared. I feel like there's a little bit more um business clout for Miami in the last five to ten years than there has been in the past. I I don't know if you're getting that sense too, but I I'd love to hear your feel on it,

Food Culture And The Butcher Shop Find

SPEAKER_03 20:19

Rich.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Yeah, I agree. I mean, a lot of New York and California money.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

Yeah. You know, it's a thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

A bunch of those guys, I mean, Ken Griffin, I mean, Chicago. Guy brought himself all his all his people down. Um so yeah, I mean, I agree with that. In terms of big big companies, yeah, I think there's always been probably more um local business here than there is in especially other parts of the state. Like it's you you find a lot more like mom and pop restaurants in Miami than you do like in Orlando, for example.

SPEAKER_03 20:53

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

I mean, we have 2,000 Cuban restaurants. I can get step outside my office and throw a rock, I'll break a fucking window at a Cuban restaurant. They, you know, there's maybe four in Tampa, and one of them is really famous. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

So you know which one I went to, Richard? Have you gone to Columbia in um either either St. Augustine or Orlando? I went to the one in Tampa, which is the original. Yeah, that one a good restaurant. That's a really, really I don't know about the one you went to, but I mean, uh, I've been to the one in St. Augustine, which is like a whole fucking city block. And then I went to the one in um in Orlando, which is uh which is um uh in in a celebration, that town celebration, which is super cool too. But yeah, got that's those man, but I'm not really a I was talking about it today, actually. I'm not really a fan of Cuban food for some reason. Me either. Like what what what is yeah, it's like I I don't know. I we're I was talking about in in comparison to Venezuelan food, right? Um my my wife's Venezuelan, so you know, we we you know I've been introduced to every type of Venezuelan food, and let me tell you, it's uh it's it's man, there's a lot of uh That different variations and different uses of corn and and and and and cheese and like I mean anything with corn and cheese and butter is good, but yes, um yes, yeah. So I and the reason the reason why it came up is because there's a new um butcher shop um by my house called Meat Meat Town, owned by some Venezuelans. Is that in uh Coral Gables, Richard, or no? I don't believe so. Meat Town? Yeah. Um so yeah, it it's uh so it's it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a butcher shop, but then it has like a whole section of like Venezuelan foods and everything like that. Like so uh but yeah, man, real good. I stopped going to Wild Fork because of this place. Well, where do you where do you get your meat? You get your meat from Josh's, right?

SPEAKER_01 22:42

No, it depends. Um sometimes I I go to Shadow Wagyu, sometimes I go to Josh's, um, sometimes I order from Snake River Farms. It just depends on like mail, mail-wise, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Really? Snake River Farms is really good. Man, so yeah, so this place you walk in, a butcher usually comes in and and meets you, right? They come from behind the counter. What are you looking for? And I'm like, man, I'm looking for this and this. Like which one? I tell them, which one did you pick? And they'll they'll they'll walk me through what while up why they pick this this one and that one and that one. So you kind of walk out of there, you know, like like feeling you got the best cut. Um, you know, there's three different types of entranas, three different or four different types of picañas. Oh, you know what's what they're what they've been cooking there every time I've walked in, Richard, they they do it in the air fryer or they have a guy in the front of the grill. Uh flank. Flank?

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Flank steak?

SPEAKER_00 23:39

Yeah, flank steak. I I've never really had it. I is it it I mean, I don't know. It's been really good every time they've done it. It's tasted amazing. Why is that not everywhere we go?

SPEAKER_03 23:50

Well, flank steak is tough to do do right because it's not as fatty a cut, and it should come with toothpicks because I'd always get stuck in my teeth.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Really?

SPEAKER_03 23:58

I always need a toothpick with flank and skirt steak. The two of them are always is it's definitely flank?

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Could it be flap? Or no, it's flank, right? That's there's nothing that sounds like it, right? Did I get it right? Flank?

SPEAKER_03 24:06

Yeah, flank steak.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Yeah, flank steak. It's similar to vacillo. You've never had vacillo?

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Yeah, I had vacillo, but I've never been a fan of it. But the both times that I've gone to this place, one time they just did a little bit in the air fryer, it was fucking amazing. And then the other day I won in the weekend and they had a whole grilling thing in the front. And man, I it was spectacular. So I don't know. I don't know if I just got lucky that day or they have spec that uh they have some sort of sort of special flank, but I've never even really heard I've never not that I never heard of it, but it's never been like, oh, you know, cook some flank. You know, it's it's uh I don't know. I mean, uh so I yeah, this weekend I did uh a tomahawk, I did picana. Oh, you know what they have there too, which is pretty cool. The the Richard, I sent you a picture and and you made fun of my uh of my um uh plating of the burger, right? But um, so that burger that I set a nice little fucking cafeteria burger like on a fucking yeah. I was um I was I was in my fucking pool, in literally cooking from inside my pool. Like I was literally the entire time in the pool.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Was that were they Dixie or hefty plates though?

SPEAKER_00 25:12

They were Dixie, but um so that burger, that burger no expense to make people feel right at home. I was I was by myself. There was nobody there. It's just literally me. I sent everybody to go fuck themselves. I was by myself at the pool.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

I think he's suggesting you upgrade the Chinet.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Yeah, yeah, at a minimum, bro. Listen, the no, so the burger, half pican, half chorizo. So a mix of picanna and chorizo burger. Pretty fucking outstanding, the juiciest fucking burger I've ever had in my life. Um, so they'll have they'll have different, they'll have um, so I had a brisket burger, a picanna burger, and that half picanna and and and chorizo burger. Man, like really fucking good.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

So

Cooking Roots Plus Hunting Ethics

SPEAKER_03 25:55

so like you get me me thinking about this. And I grew up cooking, right? Because my father's Italian and he was fat. And so he was fat and Italian and he really liked food and he was really good at food. So like he didn't believe my father didn't believe in like a little bit of anything ever. So like when he would open a roll to put butter on there, he didn't believe in spreading the butter. He would just stack the pads of butter to cover the entire surface area of the bread. This is how like he would send it oh no, he would send us to get like chocolate-covered cream-filled donuts, and he'd send us to like six different publics to to buy them out because he'd need like three or four dozen to have enough. Like he he was he was a guy that really, really ate, right? And so he would make the meatballs and get half half the you know, the grade A chopped meat, right? That the higher fat count chopped meat, and then you'd hot sausage, and you open the hot sausage up, you mix it together with the breadcrumbs, with the egg yolk, and you take and you'd get the garlic, and you'd have to brown the garlic and get it just right, then the onions and all this stuff, and you'd put this like slurry together, and then you'd only partially cook them, and then you'd throw them in the hot tomato sauce that's on the stove and let them finish in the tomato sauce. And this stuff would come out. And I mean, it was so freaking juicy and so delicious. I mean, it's none of it's like super expensive meat, but it's just the way that it was done.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

Um, oh my god, let me tell you, man, I am so uh there's um there's a fighter, um, an Australian fighter, uh Volkonovsky. So he just started like um, he's kind of on the way to retiring now. Super funny Australian guy, and he bought himself a an enormous farm in Australia, like in the in the mountains. And so he has this whole cooking show now he does on the wild sh game that he catches there. And um, so dude, there was he did one the other day where it's like an enormous table. I mean, enormous table, and and uh and they're making sausages. So they're they're they have the whole table just full of like and and they're mixing it with the spices and the and the oh, this is more spicy, and they're literally doing the sausages there. Like, man, what that's the life right there. That that's that's where I want to be in the next as soon as I could get my as soon as I could get where I want to get, I want to have just something where it's a huge just operation farm and and and and you know, and just cook, you know, cooking stuff that you actually I don't know if I'm able to kill the animal though. Have you who has gone hunting here of you guys? Like actual hunting. Richard, have you gone hunting? Just bird hunting. Yeah, I can I I could do that. For some reason, I could do that. Yeah, but I don't see myself killing that's the problem. I'm too much of a fucking pussy to like actually kill the animals. Like gals invited me a couple of times, but I'm like, man, you know, I even have a hard time killing fish, to be honest with you. Like, like I, you know, they're flopping around and shit in their fucking eyes and stuff. Yeah, you feel bad. I I do, I do, I mean I do it, I don't feel bad enough that I don't do it, but yeah, a deer, a pig. I actually I I have a pig, so it's like I I know they're they're pretty funny animals and and like have personalities and shit. So, you know, a wild boar, can I kill a wild boar? I don't know. I almost I had an encounter with one in in Okala where I, you know, I think we we had a showdown just staring at each other for like a couple minutes, and uh and he ended up backing down, but I I feel he he would have fucking tried to kill me. So I don't know. For some reason I think it was a big thing. Nasty bad. Yeah, man. And I was like, uh we're we both saw each other. I'm like, oh fuck. And he probably said oh fuck too. And we just kind of stared at each other. You know what I'm saying? I had nothing, dude. It was just me in the fucking it was in a in a in a huge uh property in in Ocala, and I was like, it was it was uh it was pretty scary. But uh, I don't know. I think I could kill that. I don't know, Richard. Can you kill uh any animals or yeah?

SPEAKER_01 29:41

I mean I've shot two other of birds in in Cordova and Argentina, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

But that's different. That's like a bird. That's like a yeah, that's very close to a fish.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Yeah, I mean it's kind of fucked up when it fucking lands next to you and it's like flapping around.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

Yeah, yeah. I don't want to see things in pain.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

I don't do what's turn and shoot them on the ground at that point and just put them out of their misery.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

Yeah. Yeah. I I agree with that. I don't like to see things. I even things, even animals I don't like, I don't like to see them in pain.

SPEAKER_00 30:09

It's you know like yeah, well, you you you know how I am. When you tell me one thing, I'll never forget it, and I'll bring it up in the most uncomfortable situations. So uh so uh Gal told me a story uh about how a buddy of his dog was fucking like sick, you know, like it was in his last leg or whatever, and then he called Gal to fucking just to kill him, you know what I mean? So uh what a s what kind of fucking savage animal is this? Right. So no, he just wanted to put him out of his misery.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

I get it, but there are there are vets that'll come do that, sure.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

No, listen, a hundred percent. So then, so then um, you know, uh so he tells me the story, you know. But this is a guy who's grown up, he's a fucking hillbilly, he's been he's grown up hunting his entire life. So they they they they don't see animals the way we see animals. Like that's a fact. Like these guys have grew up hunting, like they'll see an animal as a thing, it's not a a living being. Like I it's it's a weird disconnect that they have with it. I mean, weird by the way, we're wrong. They're right, just so you know. Like they eat cows. We just talked about eating cows and Venice and the whole situation. So we're wrong that we can't kill the animal, but we could sit there and eat a fucking burger. I could eat a chorizo burger and an entrana burger or a picanna burger. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. So, whatever. Let me tell the dog story first. So so he walks the dog and then all of just you know has the gun in his hand and just fucking shoots him in the back of the head. So then the funny story is that he then they then dig up, they then dig up the dog. They they they bury the dog, but I guess they didn't bury him long enough, not deep enough. So one day they're sitting down and they see a fox, I guess had dug it up and fucking was dragging the fucking dog through the field that had taken it. So, you know, um, so of course, anytime somebody brings up, you know, me, as anytime somebody it could be the most the more embarrassing setting possible. I will, you know, be like, oh yeah, because oh my dog, um, and I'll be like, Yeah, he killed the dog, he shot him in the head. So so he's like, no, he has a I force him to say the story uh he shot the fucking dog in the head. But but yeah, it's a it's a weird disconnect that these guys have on uh like his kids, like don't they don't see animals like animals.

Backyard Chickens And Better Eggs

SPEAKER_00 32:17

Like it's uh didn't I sent you that video? So it's it's a video of my son Elijah with Gal's son Lane, and they're at a chicken coop. That I I I sent you I both of you have seen that gotten that from me, but maybe you don't remember. But then uh my son Elijah has an egg in his hand and he goes, Hey, do they grow chickens out of this? Right? So, like he had an egg in his hand. Do they do they grow chickens out of this? That was that's the city slicker, yeah. Never fucking, you know. Um, so yeah, there's a weird disconnect. Um by the way, I'm getting chickens now too. Um, I should have five or six chickens in my house within the next couple of weeks.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

Are you getting roosters? Because that's uh they're assholes.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

I'm not gonna get roosters. I've I've been highly recommended not to get roosters. I already have a fuckload of peacocks. They are assholes too. They are naughty. I heard you don't need them. Like you don't need them. So the only reason you would get them to make noise.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

What do you mean you don't need them?

SPEAKER_00 33:14

You don't need them. Chickens do eggs without without uh they lay eggs.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 33:19

Yeah, no. Roosters just make some of those eggs turn into chickens. That's they they wave a magic wand and poof. I'll spare I'll spare you the the mechanical details. But that's how more chickens get here, but yeah, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

So I I supposedly each chicken lays one egg a day, right? So if I'm out of five or six chickens, that's the goal. You're looking at five eggs a day. Now, I watched this whole thing. Uh we're we're kind of running out of time, so I'm uh let me just get this little story out. So I watched the whole thing on eggs the other day, right? There's three different levels of eggs. There's the chicken that's in a fucking cage that doesn't move at all. Like literally, they eat shit, lay eggs in the same box, right? They date at all. That's one level of egg. That's abuse. Obviously, the lowest level of egg. So the guy goes and he puts the three different eggs so you can see them, right? So that level of egg, you you when you open it up, the the white is almost liquid, the yellow part is almost flat and very soft, right? Then you got the other level of egg, which is uh by the way, the yellow part is called the yolk. Yes, thank you, Richard. Guys, let me just in case nobody knows, guys, just in case nobody knows, Richard is the smartest guy in the world, knows everything about everything, never been wrong. I'm just a dumbass. So I just want to clear that up so Richard doesn't have to continue to prove that point. I graduated high school with a 1.5 GPA. And by the way, it really takes the smart, smartest person in the world to know that the yellow part of the I knew that I knew that, but I'm speaking to the mat I'm speaking to the masses here. All our are our audience. Dumb fucks, you guys don't know what a yoke is. Right. So the the going back to that, so the lowest level, the one stuck in that box, is is um, you know, uh again, flat yoke, the white part lit very liquidy. Then you get the second part, which is they are in a warehouse. Okay, they are they are they're not in a cage, they're in one warehouse, like a Costco-sized warehouse, and they're all in there. Okay, they call those free range. Okay, so but again, they're all fucking piled up within each other, they're fucking bumping into each other, eating each other's shit. There's a whole different situation. That a little the the white part a little bit um more uh viscous. Viscous. That's that's a word, yes. What's viscous mean? Like thicker?

SPEAKER_01 35:56

Yeah, like uh yeah, thicker.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

Gummy, right?

SPEAKER_01 35:59

So more viscous, not thumb, not gummy, thicker.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

More more thicker, the yellow part, uh a little bit more round, right? Not as flat as the other one, a little bit more round and a little bit harder. Then there is the um pasture-raised chickens, which those are the ones that are out there on a field eating worms, um, grass, whatever they are, even rocks, even little certain rocks that they need to eat to get, I think it's a certain level of calcium in them and the whole situation. So they are just walking around, and it's pretty cool because what they do is they have an electric fence, right? So they they get the electric fence and they have all the, let's say, a thousand chickens in there, and then they'll literally move once they eat all that fucking grass and fuck that entire grass up, it's literally bare. They'll move all the fence to another location, and they have them fuck up that part of the grass while the other one grows back, right? And they'll just continue to move them around a huge, huge acreage, but they're eating new grass and walking around and the whole situation. Let me tell you, when you look at that egg, almost completely round like a ball, yolk, okay. The the white, very thick. There's a fucking oh, very yellow yolk, also. It's a it's a big difference on how they are. What they eat. Have you ever had happy eggs? Happy?

SPEAKER_01 37:26

No, happy, no, yeah, bro. Buy them at Publix, a blue carton, happy egg. What's that? Best eggs. Pasture? Are those pasture raised? Yeah. And dude, the yolks are amber. I mean, nothing tastes like those eggs.

SPEAKER_00 37:40

Well, what I'm trying to tell you is that within uh, you know, what they eat, how they eat it, um, the what you feed them, and all that whole situation, uh, it makes that big difference on the eggs. So, starting like hopefully by next month, with all this extensive research I've done on what to feed a goddamn chicken and what chickens to get in the whole situation, I'm gonna have high-level eggs at my house. That's the goal. So, am I gonna fuck it up? I don't know. Are our foxes are gonna come and eat them? Listen, I'm I'm hearing uh buddy of mine sent me a picture of three foxes in his backyard the other day. Like I'm hearing more and more stories of uh of uh of foxes in in the Miami area. So my sorry, South Florida area.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

Can I uh can I can I toss two things out there um before we before we wrap up?

America Anniversary And GRI Update

SPEAKER_03 38:29

One, uh we didn't get a chance to do it last week, but I want to take and shout out a happy 250 years of of America. Absolutely. That was that's that's a big freaking deal. And um, and the other one is uh I spent the the weekend working on uh on, and it looks like it's coming to be that that brand new GRI. I did the test questions for it. I wrote them. So we're gonna have something in Florida that's actually what we've always wanted, which is a really strong um practitioner source, the post-license thing. So that's getting closer to being so.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Yeah, so uh let me elaborate a little bit more on that. So the can what Cadillac is saying is that the the the continuing education book that we that realtors are kind of forced to to go through, continuing education course in real estate, he's the author. Or are you one of the authors or the only author?

SPEAKER_03 39:14

I'm the only author on the the GRI, which is the post license. It's a GRI that functions as potentially the post license that people can take.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

Right. He's actually was able to squeeze in a ton of practical shit, like stuff that you're actually going to use in the business, which is a drastic change on what's been happening till now, which is just get your license and and put 100% of the responsibility on the brokerages to teach you how to do the business. So that's actually a a huge, huge deal. Yeah, yeah. Richard, uh, let your let your people at Freck know that we're doing our best over here to uh to educate the masses of of realtors to actually learn how to how to function in this business. We'll do you're such a fucking ass. Dude, the fact that I've been your friend for the fucking I don't even know. The fact that I've only wanted to fight you once. Remember in New York? That one time that one time you really fucking pissed me off. That was really funny. Yeah, we were in we were in a taxi and I really lost my shit on him and another one of our uh occupants of the taxi. Uh remember the look on the taxi driver when he looked back, like what the fuck is going on back there?

SPEAKER_01 40:26

Yeah, bro, because brought his four month old son to a bunch of business meetings in New York.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Yeah, yeah, but now, now, now looking back, you do the same. Yeah, yeah. No, no, it was just funny to make fun of you. Right.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

Guys, like we gotta rap. We got I know Richard's got a heart at three, and I so do I. Let me just go ahead.