EP 47: The Economy Feels Bad And Steak Got Expensive

Real Estate Talk Podcast with Jesus Castanon - @retalkpodcast: The Ultimate Real Estate Unveiling! Raw, Real & Revealing insights from industry experts

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Jesus Castanon: Visionary CEO of Real Estate EMPIRE Group, transforming property transactions into success stories.

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Transcript

Opening And Economy Setup

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Good to go.

SPEAKER_03 0:03

All right. We're on. So why don't we discuss the economy? Cadillac, how do you see the economy? And Richard, how do you see the economy? Because I I I know for a fact you you guys are going to disagree on it. So why don't we just start disagreeing from the first 30 seconds?

Core CPI And What It Misses

SPEAKER_00 0:33

I think that the big thing that I'm looking at to try to take and maintain a sense of uh reasonableness in looking at this is core CPI. I mean, you have to pull the the oil stuff out because it's it's not based upon the devaluation of money. I mean, there's there's really two problems, right? The cost of things and whether that's actually a decline in the buying power of money, uh, or if it is going to be a long the problem with the devaluation of money is it's a long-term permanent like effect. If it's a temporary supply chain issue that's causing it, that's more of an aberration. That's the kind of thing that happens all the time. It's just that it happens to be oil, which is the most uh important thing to the val the cost of things. So in the interim right now, it's causing a Yeah, it affects everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

It affects transportation, which increases prices on everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Absolutely. I mean, like the problem really is, and this is one of the cool things that I'm looking at, because I'm I'm weird like this. I'm gonna be really curious to see if this does come to an end. If we get back to a semblance of normalcy and supply, whether that not only does the the CPI number come down, but if core CPI comes back down again, it's gonna show us that core CPI is is not a good number, that they haven't really cleaned the cleaned oil out of that number. You know, because like the shirt might go up, but it because it costs more to deliver the shirt now, and I'm not sure that's being cleaned out of core CPI. So that's one of the things I'm looking at. One way or

Supply Chains Show Up In Prices

SPEAKER_00 2:00

the other.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

I'll tell you one thing I've noticed too is fucking meat. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Well, meat's another meat's another supply chain issue. I just was reading an article the other day that uh that for some reason cow supply, like the the herd is is not uh breeding as it should. Uh we're we're at a we're at a uh a very low level with with uh cattle as well, which is just a different supply chain issue. But those two things aren't aren't necessarily connected.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

But hey Richard, what's your favorite cut of what's your favorite cut of meat?

SPEAKER_01 2:30

You have to come off mute, buddy. That would help.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Um I don't know, bigana maybe. Um in filet is very good.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Um yeah, that's what I had yesterday. That's what I was that's what I was that's why that's why I actually asked the question. Because I had a bone in fillet yesterday, and holy shit. It is just the best of both worlds, you know?

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Snake River Farms has a real good one.

SPEAKER_03 2:59

What's that? Like an order online thing?

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Yeah, yeah. When it's in stock. I mean, it that that by the way, that's the best meat I've ever ordered, Snake River Farms.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Oh, I gotta do that. All right, so they they they need to totally be sponsoring this podcast after that shout out.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm uh you know, I'm torn and I know it's not a high-end cut, but a good entrana, like a really it's there's it's hard to beat, man. It's hard to beat with the flavor.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

It's my worst favorite. I mean, I just it I I I'll eat it. I mean, I love chufaco. It's just not really. I'll eat it. Holy shit. No, no, no. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like it, but I mean it's like when I go to a steakhouse, unless it's Grazianos, I'm not like, and in fact, you can't really find them at most steakhouses anyway. Most American steakhouses.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

Yeah, I I no, I I just cooked the fuck out of it. Serge, little Serge also, man, he is. Actually, you're fucking great at it too. But um, but yeah, it it it uh a well done, uh not a well done like well cooked, but a well-cooked entrana is is hard to beat. Picanya is it's tricky. It's tricky, you know? It's tricky to cook. Um I I got that new, I got that new grill. I should I showed you guys. Uh I got some fucking like a spaceship of a grill. Um we used it for the first time, used it for the first time this weekend. So um,

Why The Public Feels Squeezed

SPEAKER_03 4:22

what are we talking about? The economy.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

The economy. Well, I mean, I'll tell you what, and and I'm not sure that Cadillac um really said whether he thinks the economy is good or bad. He was just kind of talking um the issue.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

I mean, I listen, I again, number one, um I've I have found that in my adult life, when I was a kid, I remember my old man used to complain about the economy. And of course, I I had no I didn't understand what he was talking about because I I wasn't in the workforce. As an adult, I find that um I've never I've been blessed to never be overly impacted by like a bad economy. So like when there's a recession, like in 2008, when the Great Recession hit, I didn't have a ton of properties. In fact, I didn't have any. I had my house. Um, so you know, like I didn't suffer this, uh, all my properties devalued to the point where I was upside down and then I didn't want to pay things and or couldn't afford it. And you know, I'm a lawyer, so you know, in in bad times you you pick up litigation, in good times you do transactions. You know, I mean I don't litigate much anymore. So, you know, I'm blessed to say that that I don't feel the impact like I think most Americans do, especially Americans that, you know, live check to check, which unfortunately that number is growing exponentially. Like you got people that make $200,000, $300,000 that they live, quote, check to check. Okay. Now, but the sentiment's not only mine. I mean, I just pulled it up here with the trusty AI, and it's like a Gallup poll from May and June of 2026 found that only 16% of Americans uh would consider the economy as excellent or good. 34% say it's fair, 50% say it's poor. A rooters poll from June of this year, only 22% approve of the government's handling of the cost of living. 70% disapprove. Ipsos, economic tracking. 61% of Americans believe the economy is on the wrong track. And and why do we think that is? You know, listen, it's very easy to say, oh my God, the cost of gas is high now because of the war in Iran, and that's only been 10 minutes, you know, and and in the in the year before that it was wonderful. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. And and the reason why people are pissed off is because that's not what we were told. Remember, prices were coming down on day one, okay? And they just haven't come down, guys. Not on day one, not on day 700. And so what happens is for us, and we joke about it in text, or well, we're not joking about it, but like for us, you know, the price, the gallon of gas goes to five bucks a gallon, and guess what? You're still gonna eat crab, okay, and you're still ordering lobster, and you're still traveling, you're still taking your kid all over the country to fucking wrestle, and you and you find the nearest steakhouse, but that's not life for most people. What the fuck? How does that go specific to me, motherfucker? Yeah, because because that's that because it's part of it's it's part of our insulation.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

Yes, yes, I am in Utah. Yes, I am in Utah for a wrestling tournament, and yes, I did find the steakhouse in my badass location industry.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

And so, and so we're insulated from I think the realities of most people. Most people just don't think, don't get to experience life the way we do. Again, we're blessed, we work hard, whatever the reason may be, we're fortunate, you know. But but the reality is that that's not life for most people. So Okay, but I need I need to interject for a second.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Whoever is making $200,000 and is living check to check, listen to what I'm telling you. Stop worrying about the Joneses, all right? Stop trying to have the nicest car. Stop trying to have, you know, like whatever, like downgrade your life. If you're living at $200,000 and you're living check to check, you're living like a fucking asshole. And you're living above your means. Not maybe. But the American way, credits the American way, baby. Well, that it well, that's then then don't fucking complain. You know, $200,000 and check the check, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

There's a couple of pieces of this that that I I want to be living on on a little

Wage Growth Versus Inflation Math

SPEAKER_00 8:36

bit. Um the idea that prices are going to come down anyone that believes that had to have an education in an in the American system, because it's the only way that you could believe that prices are literally going to get lower. Because it doesn't happen ever. Never. They don't go now. So why would you have to do that? Because the effect of prices coming down is when wage growth exceeds the increase of prices. That is the way that people's uh ability to buy things improves. The affordability, the the amount of wealth that someone has to utilize. The ratio between CPI growth and wage growth had been inverted, and it was inverted badly during part of Biden's administration. It started to recover toward the end of his administration, but wage growth for the first part uh coming out of Biden. So I'm gonna say that the tail began during the Biden administration into the Trump administration, was about 3.8% wage growth to about 2.6 CPI, which means the average consumer was making 1.2% more than what they were spending. In other words, affordability was shifting back in the favor of the consumer. Now, that's all well and good, except that they lost nearly 10 cents on the dollar of buying power over the course of about 18 months during that major inflation uptick. They had wage growth about 3% and the value of money fell more than 10%. So affordability, the actual metric of like what you can buy versus what you make, that was shifting in the favor of the consumer. The thing is at 1.2%, which is actually historically quite good for the U.S. It has been against the worker for a very long time. If you actually track that number, the worker's been getting squeezed for a while. It's not a huge, not like the 10 to 3 ratio, but it's it's been bad. It's now been shifting back right now. And the reason why I talked about the oil thing is that has once again inverted back the other way. We're looking at CPI, the most recent number is 4.2%, and wage growth is still right around that 3.8%, which means the consumer now can buy less. That core number, what the value, the buying power of the money, that's the reason why I'm trying to pull it out and make the case because I think it's more of a nuanced point. What the buying power of the money is the real question. Is the dollar worth less? Does your dollar buy less stuff fundamentally? There's two categories. There's things that are caused by supply chain. In Miami, it does. That's stake. The stake issue is a real supply chain issue. It's not that money buys less, it's that money buys less stake right now because of a fundamental problem in stake, right? Money buys less gasoline because of a fundamental supply chain issue in gasoline.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

How long has this cattle phenomenon been happening? Do you know?

SPEAKER_00 11:30

It's about two years that it's been, it's actually been building for longer than that. And I haven't really.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

So why do you think um supporters like yourself weren't saying that when Biden was president and everyone was complaining about the price of meat? Same thing. I mean, a number of egg factories burned down, and I had to fucking deal with people talking about how the Chinese or or the the left was sabotaging the fucking egg factories. And it's like, dude, there was a fucking there was a massive loss in supply chain, right? It's like it's possible to me.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

It's like a hundred percent. Take a look, take a look at my responses on that stuff. I either ignore it, I I never contribute to that.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

I mean, I never the other thing is too.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

It's like when the market was high under Biden and it reached all-time highs all the time, it was it was bullshit. The market was bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Don't worry, Newsom and and Hunter Biden. It looks like they're gonna run. It looks like it looks like Newsom and Hunter Biden are gonna run, so you're gonna have a Biden back then. Dude, they're not a joke, bro.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

That's don't worry about it. That video was a joke, bro. If if you watched the video, you would have seen they were joking. They were making fun of people like you who get wound up about that.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Look, my my my position is is is is pretty simple, right? For me, I I'm not picking sides. There's some things I agree with, some things I disagree with, but for the most part, when it all kidding and ball breaking aside, when it comes to this issue, if people had more clarity on how to measure affordability, like really measuring affordability and whether we're winning or losing. Right. And so to me, it like if we can get that ratio back over the next few years, but it's gonna take a few years to really recover from the damage done from the inflation. And it's a very tough metric to it's a very tough line to walk because how do you get wages to go up without inflation coming up? How do you pay people more without having that winding up having to show up on the cost of goods? It's a very, very tough metric to

AI Productivity Without Layoffs

SPEAKER_00 13:35

walk. So, I mean, there's a few ways you can do it. You can cut taxes, but we've already kind of done that about as much as we can. The one big hope, and it's actually something that we're seeing, which is pretty cool. I was talking to uh Jesus' friend Gal about this. What they're seeing is companies that have been cutting workforce because of AI have not been seeing the profits that they anticipated. The companies that have been seeing the best profits have been the companies that have been keeping their employees and using AI to make them more effect effective and efficient. Because the crazy thing is, if you could take the same employee and get 20% more out of them and only pay them 3.8% more, you have actually added to the bottom line of the company without having to raise your cost of goods. And so that is that is that that technology efficiency piece of it has been something that's allowed us to take and have more inflation and not pass it along to consumers. I'm hoping that trend continues just for the overall well-being, regardless of who's in power to the workers. That's a trend that needs to needs to keep going.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

I mean, listen, I'm a I'm a firm believer that alt presidents get too much credit and too much blame for the economy.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

Always. Too much long-term carryover.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Unfortunately, that that sentiment is not commonly shared because, you know, every time a fucking egg goes down by a cent, I gotta deal with a parade of texts, bro, and and fucking memes about a guy, uh, the the the president wearing a fucking Superman cape and holding a gladiator sword and all this fucking shit and fucking fanatics, bro, that I gotta deal with on a daily fucking basis.

Leaders Get Too Much Credit

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Which, by the way, can we get that guy on the podcast? I would love that, bro. Holy shit.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

He won't, he won't, he won't.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Of course he won't, bro.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Good. You know, he believes the stuff, man. He does.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Believe me, I know it's it fucking boggles the mind. It goes back to the old American education system, bro. Failure.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

But he's a private school kid, so I don't know. I'm gonna tell you, the problem really is, man, it is so bad on both sides. And and the people that I know, I mean, I think I told you guys, my my my daughter said to me the other day, you know, this is the worst time in history to be alive. What the fuck? I'm like, if if we want to quantify the failure of understanding. Is she in Calvo's class? How? How under what metric? Under what metric is this the if this is the best time in history? You're odds of being killed by, I don't know, famine. I I mean like war. Like under what like it's one of those things. Honestly, it was like when somebody says something like tease themselves up for a joke that's just like you have so many ways to go. The tilt light goes on, you can't say anything. It's like I almost had like an aneurysm. I'm like there's there's so many different what metric do you want to look at as to how this is the greatest time to be alive? Where did she where did she hear that? Because obviously she didn't come up with that.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

Where did she hear that?

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Social social media, dude. And and it's definitely like the left-leaning social media, you know, like how persecuted they are, and I I mean, Jeffrey Epstein, because he invented pedophilia. I don't know if you knew that. Pedophilia did not exist before Jeffrey Epstein. There's a persecuted generation.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

I think people are just pissed about the U-turn. Because I mean, I'm pretty sure that there you guys have been clamoring for fucking six years, bro.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

I would agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Obama was gonna get indicted, right? All this shit was gonna happen when the Epstein files came out, and now it's a hoax. It's a democratic hoax. It's fascinating, bro. And then by the way, for the audience, this individual who shall remain nameless, this guy went from Trump is not in the files to hearing, to hearing that Trump was in the files more than the word Trump appears in the files more than Harry Potter appears in the entire Harry Potter series. And he's like, it's all a hoax. It's a hoax now. It's like, dude, again, what it's the U-turns that I think, generally speaking, let me tell you, he he he rents space, he rents space in your head like rent-free. Yeah, no, no, yeah, it's it's really aggravating.

SPEAKER_03 17:57

That guy has a whole lot of real estate in there, bro, rent-free.

Exhaustion With Political U Turns

SPEAKER_02 18:03

But I'll tell you what, we we talk in all seriousness, we talk a lot about certain kinds of fatigue. I I've I really believe that we're seeing widespread on the right, of course it's on the left, but it's on the right, big time fatigue with the U-turns. Like it's just gotten to the point that some of the loudest voices for Trump, some of the loudest voices, you know, advocates, uh, influencers, you name it. I mean, the the the U-turns are just insane. And people are people see it. Like people are tired of it. Like, I just sent you guys this one this morning. He's like, inflation's gonna come down on day one. Then two days ago he says he loves inflation. I mean, are you guys fucking serious? Like, this is fucking crazy, bro. You know, and it's like, no, and Iran is not a new war. Can you imagine? The president of peace has bombed seven countries, but these aren't new wars. I mean, it's like, get the fuck out of here, dude. What when is Kash Patel gonna bring out the um the 2020 files that we were promised? Right? And what happened in Georgia? Remember when we had to deal with this fucking bullshit? This guy sending the videos of oh my god, the FBI raided Georgia. I mean, what's where where is all this, bro? Do we have the canal? Is Canada the 51st state? Um, I mean, do we have Greenland? I mean, what in the fuck is going on? Like, at what point do and by the way, I voted for Trump. I'm I'm putting that out there. Why don't I? Because I firmly believe that it was between worse and worse, worse, worser. Okay, but that being said, it's like, at what point do you guys ever say, man, there's like the bullshit is getting thick and you guys aren't wearing boots? Like, like, is there anything on which you're willing to concede of these ridiculous claims, none of which are ever gonna be true? I mean, it's just ridiculous, bro. He's still saying the election was stolen. Get the fuck out of here. 62 cases. His own judges threw it out, his own attorney general at the time. I mean, this is crazy, bro. I gotta hear about 48 mules. The other day, this guy sent us a video of four crackheads talking about what they saw at two in the morning while they were fucking zombied out on the side of the fucking road. I mean, it's like, dude, this is bananas, bro. The the country has to, we have to get back together. I mean, it's just

Culture Backlash And Team Picking

SPEAKER_02 20:22

well listen. Let me tell you something.

SPEAKER_03 20:23

Let me tell you, let me tell you this. Um, I think that if if and and and yes, I'm not kidding, all right? If Trump were to come out again versus any of the other people there, obviously I would not vote for him over all the other people there. But I will tell you this, he is exactly what other people, well, like like uh Vance or or Rubio or or whatever, of course, yeah. Right. But but well, Jeb, a little bit on what Digo, but right, whatever. Um that would be back to worse again in my mind. Yeah, but but I will tell you this wholeheartedly, if if I were to go back in time, knowing everything I know now, going back in time, during that particular moment, I would vote for him again. Because we needed a hard pendulum swing. Guys, it was becoming normal to have tampons in men's bathrooms. Okay? Let's be fucking real, man. We were headed in a weird, the fucking, what do you call that? The the crazy people running the fucking crazy, whatever. What does that mean? It was fucking running the asylum. Yeah. Hey, transvest sites, fucking in men's sport, in women's sports, um, you know, just bro, just crazy riots everywhere for bullshit. I mean, it was statues, uh historical statues being removed. That's been, you know, come on, man. We were headed. I get it. I I agree. Everything you said, I get it. But Man, we needed that hard pendulum joint.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

I can't disagree. I I like I like I said, I voted. I voted for Trump. And I've been a Republican my whole life. I know you disagree and you don't understand, but I mean, listen, I I I can't disagree with you there. Um they fucking wore out when I say they, I mean like the the hard left leaning constituency, wore out the mano. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's Cuban for uh se le fue la mano is Cuban for they went too far. You know, and and I agree.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

I mean, I I actually I I I I want to take and lay into this because I actually think that this is this is probably true, and I'd be interested in your taking it. I would agree with you that that Trump is easily hateable, like more hate he makes himself very easy to dislike. Like, so you either like the big middle finger that he's giving to everybody else and that he just doesn't care, or it really starts to bother you and it it irritates you. And and I get it, and I think that potentially I'm I'm gonna say that the pushback to the extreme left is because they're able to cobble together a uh such disdain for the way he is, uh, it actually uh improved.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

If Kamala would have won, 77% of our fucking TV viewership would have been fucking homo stuff. And listen, I got no problem. I got no problem.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

I don't think you can say that, bro.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

Like no, listen, no, no, listen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got I have zero, zero problems with homosexuals. Zero, like zero. I have a major problem with what. Listen, let me, this is the way I see it. What started happening was it was the gay, hey, I want to, I want to just be left alone, live my life. 100% right. Live your life. Now, if you start imposing homosexuality on me or on my children or on the world, it's the same as me imposing heterosexuality on you. Mind your business. Leave me alone, leave you alone. So that started getting really crazy, right? So I know I joke around with you about the picking teams and stuff, but yeah, Richard, 99.9% of our life, you shouldn't pick political, you shouldn't pick political sides. You should go with a guy who makes more sense and everything like that. Except for that last election. You needed to pick teams. You needed to pick teams, man. It was just way too crazy. When you vote, you end up picking, you know, yeah, but I know what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Like, hey, you know what? No, man. You were like, I want to get, I want to see, get your, your, I, your take on it. Sorry, kind of like.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

What I'm saying to you is I I think that maybe the the uh while Biden ran as a centrist, which we all know was not factually true based upon the things that he did. The things that he did were were the most far away.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

I think he was fucking absent, mentally absent. So I don't think he tried to be a centrist and then they fucking ran him out of the fucking to it could maybe not be his fault.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

I mean, it doesn't matter whose fault it is. What we were sold. I mean, if we're gonna talk about you know the 51st state and all this other stuff, we have to agree the last bill of what we were sold previously to this looked nothing like what we actually got.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

That's true, but the claims weren't as patently absurd.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Correct. They told us they were gonna do something completely different, and then they came in and went, they didn't make the claim. They just did stuff that was far and away different than what we anticipated.

Jewish Voting Patterns And Israel

SPEAKER_00 25:34

I mean, put their film on the scale with all the incentive, the Green New Deal, and all that wound up being in that nonsense that was anything but infrastructure.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

I saw a picture the other day of uh some building in the 1930s.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

But what I'm saying to you is what got him elected probably uh was all these easily hateable things about Trump that cobbled together a big enough voting base of people that just can't stand him enough to get these disparate groups. Because that's always the thing that's impressive about the Democrats is how disparate the groups are. You know, you have the uh, I mean, the the one group they can get both the the far left Jewish vote and the the Islamic vote, they're voting together on the same thing, right? It's how they get these groups that don't really like each other, like would never be in the same room with each other to take and all pull in the same direction. And and I think that Trump is a very unifying thing for them in their disliking. How are all the biggest unifying thing they have? Say it again.

SPEAKER_03 26:39

How are not all the Jews Republican at this point? Like, how are there still Democrat Jews?

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Let me tell you something. I deal with some brilliant that are idols of mine um Jewish lawyers, you know, um, and they can't stand Trump, dude. And and these are these are I mean, these are extremely educated people, federal judges appointed by presidents.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

Fine, but but against an entire team of Jew haters. I mean, the Democrats right now are just a Palestine uh protest in universities against the Jews. I mean, I mean what what? So again, you gotta pick teams.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

There's two pieces to this.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

If you're a Jew, if you're a Jew and you hate Trump, got it, but now you're gonna you're gonna side with the people that are doing protests to get the Jews out of the students out of fucking schools and and and and and and aggressive like protests with like in your face type shit of Palestine's. I don't get it. I don't get it. You know me, I'm an enormous fan of the Jews. I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

There's a uh a big piece with this, which is that the a lot of the American Jews, while considering themselves Jewish, don't really care about Israel that much. Uh they're like they there's the Israeli and the Jews, and they're so like in their mind they're able to bifurcate that. But overwhelmingly, the Jewish vote has been to the left. Um, in fact, usually where there's socialism or communism, it's usually Jewish people that are intimately involved with pushing that. If you take a look at the big thinkers on those sides, the Jews have have always just had this natural tendency, and I I don't know what it is to lean toward that that socialist view uh of things. And um, Richard, when you tell me that, you know, these highly educated Jewish people, I've never known a highly educated Jewish person that was not an extreme liberal. So I I don't know any. I know none.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Um and that well, and I think that's probably rooted in some sense in the fact that it's not typically, I mean, at least not historically, it's not typically liberal thinkers that are isolationalists or or you know, you know, nationalists that want to like eliminate entire categories of individuals, right? I mean, it's that's just not um the I mean I see that you disagree, but can is is there and and um Stalin killed more people than Hitler, perhaps, but he was indiscriminate about it. He was killing his own people, you know? It's like um I'm I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

They they put they purged the Jews. And and I mean, the you can go back, I mean, the Roman emperors, uh Genghis Khan killed more than anybody. So uh one of the one of the one of the more liberal emperors was was Claudius, and he is famous for for purging the Jews from Rome.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Like there's only, you know, it's like sometimes people want to say, you know, it's been 300 years since uh Nixon or Lincoln freed the slaves, you know. Like, well, how long does it take to get your shit together? And it's like people still remember because, you know, like their great-grandparents had issues, you know, and now it's the same, same thing with with the Nazis, right? I mean, it just wasn't that long ago. Like, not too many, but there isn't much of a collective memory about the Roman Emperor that like was.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Well, what I'm what I what I'm saying to you is I I don't know. I mean, the Nazis, the the National Socialist Party of Germany, uh is is the one that everybody points to as the test case of this, like that was everywhere and everybody was doing this. The Jews have been chased from all over the world by all sorts of governments all the time. Usually the reasons that that Hitler was able to use to do this, you had all this poverty in in Germany. I mean, if you and and they they do the surveys, and all the doctors, all the lawyers, like 85-90 percent of them are Jewish, and and the German people are the ones that are struggling. Like the wealth had been isoled in that category, and they were able to take and make that case. And the actual success of the Jewish people in other countries has been used as a weapon against them many times to say that they're exploiting the rest of people. Make them the boogeyman.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

Um, and that has all they're doing, all they're doing, and again, and then they still lean to the left. Like they're the ones working hard uh and and and gaining uh wealth from it, right? And then you get the left trying to take that away from them, but they still lean left. It's fascinating to me. I mean, it's one

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SPEAKER_03 31:13

thing I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Both sides, I mean, here's the thing politicians will use any boogeyman they can to gain power. I mean, being a politician is a game of of getting power, being popular and getting power, and the way to do that is to point at other people, make them the problem, and say you're gonna fix it. And so everybody does that. Both sides of the aisle do this. It's it it sucks because it keeps us, you know, at each other's throats, which is not a good place, but they want us at each other's throats rather than being at theirs. I mean, it's it's just nice and easy. That's how it works.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

Hey guys, I got I gotta go. I gotta just gotta text, I gotta, I gotta get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

Um well, sucked five.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

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