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The Ultimate Real Estate Unveiling! Raw, Real & Revealing insights from industry experts
Dive headfirst into real estate's most electrifying depths with industry legends - Jesus Castanon, Josh Cadillac, and Richard L. Barbara. Why legends? With billion-dollar deals, groundbreaking innovations, and wisdom that's transformed the landscape, they've not just witnessed the game; they've been the game-changers. And if that's not enough, they're joined by a parade of industry-expert guests, spilling secrets and dishing advice that you won't hear anywhere else.
Expect RAW, REAL strategies that shook the market, REVEALING insights, and timely takes on today's market, coupled with actionable advice.
This isn't your typical real estate chitchat. This is RETalkPodcast - where the titans and top minds of the industry unite. Dive in, and prepare to have your real estate perceptions rocked!
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EP40: Politics, Racism, religion, sexuality, Gender, DEI and everything else that gets you canceled
What if hiring for diversity is actually undermining our most critical institutions? Join us as we unpack this contentious question, starting with a humorous recount of our Zoom mishaps before diving into the serious implications of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies. In this episode, we dissect the Secret Service's handling of a Trump assassination attempt, questioning whether DEI-driven hiring practices could be compromising national security. Our friend Nolan joins the conversation, adding his unique perspective on the complexities of identity, and why he prefers "Black American" over "African American."
We venture beyond politics and security into the realms of aviation, sports, and parenting, raising concerns about the potential pitfalls of prioritizing identity over merit. Through personal stories and real-life examples, we explore how these policies impact everything from pilot selection to the way we raise our children. Nolan's insights help us delve deeper into the nuanced interplay between identity and qualifications, challenging the rationale behind identity-based accommodations in competitive environments.
As we navigate through societal changes, we reflect on how modern media, education, and evolving perceptions of patriotism shape our world. From the overemphasis on LGBTQ representation in media to the shifting attitudes toward national symbols, we question how these dynamics affect future generations. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges conventional wisdom and delves into the heart of today's most pressing societal debates.
Real Estate Talk Podcast with Jesus Castanon - @retalkpodcast: The Ultimate Real Estate Unveiling! Raw, Real & Revealing insights from industry experts
Dive headfirst into real estate's most electrifying depths with industry legends - Jesus Castanon, Josh Cadillac, and Richard L. Barbara. Why legends? With billion-dollar deals, groundbreaking innovations, and wisdom that's transformed the landscape, they've not just witnessed the game; they've been the game-changers. And if that's not enough, they're joined by a parade of industry-expert guests, spilling secrets and dishing advice that you won't hear anywhere else.
Expect RAW, REAL strategies that shook the market, REVEALING insights, and timely takes on today's market, coupled with actionable advice.
This isn't your typical real estate chitchat. This is RETalkPodcast - where the titans and top minds of the industry unite. Dive in, and prepare to have your real estate perceptions rocked!
Meet The Legends:
Jesus Castanon: Visionary CEO of Real Estate EMPIRE Group, transforming property transactions into success stories.
Josh Cadillac: Renowned real estate coach, national speaker, and author; revolutionizing the art of 'closing for life.'
Richard L. Barbara, Esq.: Florida's legal luminary, pioneering change and setting the gold standard in real estate advocacy.
we're rolling good morning, fuck man. Um, so, for those who are wondering why richard's laughing, is because we tried to do a zoom for the fourth fucking time, right, and we can't get it right. So apparently it is. I mean, it's it's harder to get somebody on fucking zoom on a podcast than it is to send somebody to the moon. So, um, richard, am I wrong? Why am I enjoying so much this whole dei shit backfiring on the democrats?
Speaker 2:As much as it is right, like this is the way I see it, and I know you and I, we, first of all we, we made an arrangement, right, that we're not gonna agreement a truce, we're not gonna attack each other, right, but, uh, we're still gonna disagree on stuff, you know, okay. So, um, the fact that we have to have that agreement, it shows our level of maturity, um, but hey, is the ac on? It is right, all right. So, um, so, this is the way I see it. So the the whole, the whole, um, I'm not about, I'm not saying that they're this is conspiracy to kill him and that they, you know, send this guy, or it is a possibility, though I mean whatever, anything's possible, right, like they could you're listening, you, you see it all the time they could.
Speaker 2:And again, I'm not, this is not the, this is not this my stance. But, um, if I go up to you and I say, hey, I'm gonna kill your fucking parents unless you, you know, I'm gonna kill all this and that and unless you do this and this and this and that, right, and they fucking set them up and they do whatever they got to do, there's a possible, there's a possibility that that happens. You know what I mean. Um, wouldn't be the first time, right so, but that that's not the point. The point is that, um, this whole thing totally backfired on the democrats. Not that they were, they had anything to do with it, but if this assassination attempt has escalated trump's popularity by what? Double a?
Speaker 2:hundred fold, I would say a hundred fold right and um, the reason why it was ever able to happen, in my humble opinion, is because, um, we don't have qualified people working there, right? So, dude, I went a. I don't even know how many sniper podcasts I listened to, right, but the fact of the matter is that the fuck ups were very basic. I mean, like it wasn't anything like. This guy did not have to jump through almost any hoops. He basically walked to the building, climbed the ladder while people were pointing at and looking at him. He was able to set up shop up there.
Speaker 2:Point, when they saw him, when the secret service saw him, they like almost then they had to start calling can I shoot him? Can I shoot him? Can I shoot him, can I shoot him? And and then you could see the guy kind of hesitating. It wasn wasn't until he started shooting that they shot, right, so what's up with that? I go, oh, I should not, should not worry about that. I go all right, so, and so this whole DEI. So everybody's saying the same thing. Like, this problem is not now. It started three, four fucking years ago when they were hiring people based on race and gender and sexual orientation. Right, actually, not sexual orientation, that's something else.
Speaker 1:But uh race and uh gender sexual orientation is part of it too you think so too?
Speaker 2:it's part of the inclusion yeah, it is part of the inclusion. I mean, you know, I know you shouldn't uh judge a book by its cover, but it did look like their sexual orientation was, was. I mean, you know, I know you shouldn't uh judge a book by its cover, but it did look like their sexual orientation was, was, I mean, lesbian. You know what I mean? I mean that's what you see, the lady. Did you see the video? The lady trying to holster her gun? No, you did not see that video. So there is the seat. There's a secret service lady. I'm gonna I am absolutely gonna go out on a limb and say her sexual orientation is full-fledged lesbian. Okay, she is uh heavy set, five foot something heavy set. So apparently she's never really had to use a gun because she holstered her gun all the way in the back, right. And again, I'm not an expert in guns, but again this week I became one. I think, right, all these saying, hey, this thing has to be kind of up here because it has to be wherever you have your gun, you need to have the right. She had it. So she was going like this. So there's a full video of her just going. Kevin, can you pull that video up. Yeah, so it's her.
Speaker 2:Trump, this is the same one that was hiding behind Trump. You saw that picture. Yeah, yeah, so that one. When they the wage gap, right, right, yeah, yeah, I was just there. So when they, when she go, when they take him to the truck, right, she's, he's behind them now and she's trying to holster the gun and she can't, and she's like so she can't do anything with it and she's just just fucking. I'm just gonna hold it and act like I'm doing, but they caught the whole thing on video, so this is what I'm so that that, right there, backfired on now. I also think that the reason why they're in such deep trouble right now with biden, right, like they have nowhere to go, this guy is dying. I mean, this guy's not maybe not dying, but he is just falling apart, and falling apart fast and they don't have somebody to lean on because they hired comma. Oh, here we go. So look at her right there, right, first day on the job, yeah, watch this Okay so now she tries to holster her gun, here we go.
Speaker 2:Oh, hey, oh hey, oh, there's a longer form video than that. She really, really struggles to holster her weapon, um, so, so now this whole. Let's talk about the vice president. So the reason why they can't lean on you can leave that again. The reason they can't lean on kamala harris is because the chances are very, very high that she was picked because she was a black woman, right? So they don't have a badass vice president. They could be like hey, man, I'm gonna take the reins and I'm gonna go with this and I'm gonna take this to the finish line. Let me skip ahead here. Let's put them in the forefront and everything like that. I mean, so this dei stuff is really coming out to bite them in the ass. I'm like what's your, what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1:So you know, they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And you know, look, obviously I think there was a time when certain groups of people were marginalized, and so the notion, the idea is sound, but in reality it's just very bad, it's just a terrible idea to-.
Speaker 1:It sounds good on paper, right. It's a terrible idea to substitute qualification for these other things. That really don't make sense. And I think the theory for a long time was like well, you know, it's like doctors. There's thousands of doctors, right, hundreds of thousands, and by and large, just like lawyers, there are many that are just not that good, but on a day-to-day basis they get the job done Right. And so it's like every time you know you break your, when, when somebody breaks their arm, there is like the premier orthopedic surgeon out there that will perform like the best possible surgery of surgeries required, but then there are hundreds of thousands of others that are not the best surgeons and they'll still like adequately perform the surgery.
Speaker 1:So I think the mindset is like you know, hey, we don't always have to have the best of the best, because the job can get done with someone that's not necessarily the best. And this, this kind of of thinking, has just, you know, there is such a thing as overdoing it and it's just been overdone, I it and it's just been overdone. I mean it's just been overdone. You know, like everything has to, has to have this slant to it. You know, we, we're constantly choosing people that are that are not qualified for the job. I mean, we even have airlines, did you?
Speaker 2:see that comedian yeah, yeah he says uh well, they're picking, you know, they want, uh, you know certain gender or certain certain or everything. He goes. So wait a second, not the best pilot, right, right, right, exactly. That's not what we're looking for.
Speaker 1:We're looking for a specific, we're not worried about who's best qualified to fly the plane. It's fucking ridiculous bro. I mean it's, and again, that's the thing, there is such a thing as overdoing it. So you know it's like a fucking echo.
Speaker 2:I'm not hearing a fucking echo back there, or am I going crazy, right?
Speaker 1:now, yeah, we're hearing it, it's just fucking bananas yeah he's a phenomenal editor man. Obviously he's having a hard time with the whole podcasting um so, in other words, you didn't find the best producer I wanted, I wanted to go jewish, I wanted to go jewish, and uh and uh I didn't ask him if he's good at podcast, so the dei backfired here on the podcast production my love of the jews, my love, my love of the jews, uh, yeah, but no, all bullshit aside, his editing is magical, he's, he's really good at that.
Speaker 2:So I, you know, I know, I, I suspect, uh, he's going to figure out this whole podcast thing. So, um, yeah, man, I, I so okay. So this is what we had known. We were supposed to have a, a, a buddy of mine, nolan, um, african-american, he actually doesn't even like to be called African-American, he wants to like to be called black American because in his, in his, uh, in his in his, it is thinking he's like I've been to africa, dude, and I'm not african, I'm american. So, um, I wanted, I wanted to bring him in because, um, he's done a phenomenal job of raising two, you know, black american kids. Um, you know one of his sons in cornell, a stud athlete, I mean, as as, as decorated an athlete as you can possibly be in his sport and, uh, phenomenal, you know, very religious kid, very, uh, well-spoken kid, very, very, just just great, you know, great student, the whole situation and and I've had these, these conversations with him, I'm like, I'm like, look man, so let's talk about our kids, let's not even, you know, I wanted, I wanted nolan here, so we could kind of talk specifically about, you know, african americans or whatever, and and uh, but let's talk about our kids. Our kids are hispanic kids and and it's normal here in, in miami, right here we are the majority, okay, but we go any of these places that I go to, right, like, I mean for my son's sport I gotta travel to, like, iowa and pennsylvania and you know, kansas or utah, whatever these head places. So, um, I don't the way I'm raising my kids, I, I, I will, I don't see a space for that dei in my world. Right, I wouldn't want my kid to get a space, um, on a team because of it.
Speaker 2:So like, say, for example, my son's always, you know, getting picked for for certain. You know wrestling teams, for example, I wouldn't want somebody to call him and say, hey man, you know, at the hundred pound spot, I really need a little speak from Miami. You know what I mean. Like, were you available? No, he's going to get picked for these teams because he's the best wrestler for the spot, right? Same thing with my daughter, she gets. You know, tennis is a little different. It's not open tournaments like it is in wrestling. They can only fit a certain amount of kids in those courts. So they usually say, all right, everybody submit that you want to go, and based on their ranking, they get, you know, 32 kids or whatever. I wouldn't want you know her to be, you know, ranked 49th on that list, and because she's, you know, a Hispanic girl, then then you know we have worth.
Speaker 2:Who the fuck in their right mind thinks that's the way to raise a kid? That it's not what you do and how you do, right? I just don't understand it. Like, where? How did this even happen? It's, it's, it's happened right before our eyes in our lifetime, right? But how? Like? How? What? What does that make? How does that make sense for any race, for any color?
Speaker 2:Call it the Chinese right. Are we going to like I don't know, they're not, they're not really known as great athletes. I they won a lot of olympics, though maybe not, but let's just say, for the sake of conversation, they're not great athletes. Are we gonna make things easier for them so they can make the nba team right? How many chinese we have? We had like one in the nba right? What are we gonna do? Like, leave a space at the end of the bench for you know, three chinese kids. I mean I don't understand, like do you understand it a little bit better than I do, because I don't fucking get it, man sports is the one area that I think you don't see it as badly um as in other things.
Speaker 1:You see it more in like, um in work, you know, like in in the, in the business world, in I wonder why america right? Yeah, well, because again, because the the it's very easy to spot um inadequacy in sports, you know so, so you see it less in sport.
Speaker 2:it is also in the military like I was watching that tim that you watch the tim kennedy when he says hey, you could either carry this sack of rocks for a mile at this pace or you can't. Right, like you're. This is how you make it to the special forces. You could carry this through this at this time, or you can't. If you're a woman, you can do it Awesome, right. If you're a tranny, that can do it Awesome. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, but if you can't, you can't. And let me tell you, man, I really think there's going to be a huge pendulum. I think people are actually I mean, am I wrong? And people are trying to figure this out and saying like, whoa, what?
Speaker 1:the hell is going on.
Speaker 2:You think so. I think people are, I mean I. The problem is that it's it's, but we have buddies that are not.
Speaker 1:Well, we have one in particular. Well, the thing is that we have buddies that don't see, don't, don't believe that the problem is as prevalent as as we think it is um, and we have some that think it's way more right, right right and I think that I think, I think the the truth is is somewhere in the middle. I mean, like you know, again we joke about the algorithm, you know, capturing our one friend who's fucking out there, you know, and it's like and it really is.
Speaker 2:We're trying to get him on the podcast. By the way, I'm not gonna say who it is until we get him over here, but he's extreme.
Speaker 1:That chat is bad for my mental health, bro. I mean it, it is mine too.
Speaker 2:It's fucking crazy. It just keeps me sharp, though.
Speaker 1:The thing is again even in the military, the reality is that we're going to a much more technical warfare type environment, so you don't really need the guy that can carry um the the sack of rocks for a thousand yards you do for the special forces again yeah, but there I don't think you don't need the drone guy, I don't think there's too much dei in the special
Speaker 2:well, I think tim kennedy actually said that in that interview. He did say you have a fat ass that is driving drones, no problem, right, you know, that's fine, but every job has a particular set of like skills. And how about height? Right, for if you have I don't know if you heard this part, but he's like, if you have a six foot three 300 pound president, the person guarding him has to be six foot three, you know, right?
Speaker 2:Right, it can't be five, seven, you cannot have 40 pounds, you can't have a five foot two girl guarding. And here's another thing you got to be able to carry the president. You got to be able to pick that guy up. They did everything wrong again, I'm not an expert in this, but I like to think I became an expert this week. I've watched so many of those damn uh, special forces. And there's a secret service guy too. I watch an hour this guy. This guy was through three presidents.
Speaker 2:I mean, let's, let's bring that. I mean the only thing we can do is is bring awareness. I'm not going to get hired by the secret service and be able to make those changes. Right, let's bring awareness to what the issue is, and let's. I just don't think it's being broken down all the way to where.
Speaker 2:Um, I think the problem lies. It's, it's all the way in the with kids, right, so, right. So if you have a kid, right, you need to raise the kid, to be the best at whatever it is right. You need to be able to say and again, I wanted to get to a particular sector of it and I wanted Nolan in it, but we fucked up the Zoom again. Right, I'm here, it's, it's, it's okay, so how you can't raise a kid saying you have a disadvantage because you are Hispanic, because you are black, right, or you can't. You you need to raise somebody and say and if you raise that, one person, you're I'm talking about. You. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands and it's a society.
Speaker 2:You can't continue to raise a society thinking that they can't do this and this because of this and that because of their race. You can't do this because of your race, you can't do this because of of your gender. No, man, you do what you put your mind to, but if you don't make it, you don't fucking make it Right. And I joke, and I joke around about it all the time too, like this whole DEI thing, you know. So if you are a five foot one woman, no, you should not be guarding the president, right, just like I didn't put my son in basketball, right, because he's not going to be six foot nine, right, what's the point? I'm not going to waste my, I'm not going to gonna, I'm not gonna put him in a, in a, in a waste of time situation. So, yeah, you, you pick what you do based on on, on on your, your natural gifts, your, your, your height, just like you know, listen, you're you didn't think I'm not, I'm not gonna play basketball, I'm not right.
Speaker 2:And and, by the way, I'm six two and I still think I wasted my time playing basketball. Right, I could, I could have done a million other sports. I would. I would, I would have been probably a big football player. You know what I mean. I was a small basketball player, I mean, and it's just. It's the same thing, you know.
Speaker 2:So look back to the society thing. If I'm raising a kid, right, I need to make sure that that kid understands that nobody is, you know, trying to slow him down. There's not a conspiracy against him to like you know he's not going to make it because green people say that he can't make it or whatever. He's a Hispanic kid. I'm not going to tell him that white people want him to like, you know, not succeed because he's, he's fucked that shit. And if they do fuck them even better, like if they.
Speaker 2:If there's actually a conspiracy on white people for Hispanic people not to make it, fuck them, even better, like if they. If there's actually a conspiracy on white people for Hispanic people not to make it fuck them, good, now we want to make it even more. But as a society it's like oh no, no, because they don't want you to make it. We're going to create a slot right, so that, no matter what your qualifications are, you're going to make it anyway, because you're a little Hispanic kid from Miami and I want to make sure that you make it to this university right and that you make it to. You know this. Uh, you get this job because this job would normally not hire anybody. Because of this, and this I mean, dude, that if there's a big, if there's a problem in this country, I'm gonna tell you that dei is the number one. I mean, am I exaggerating, or? Or Dugas you?
Speaker 1:know. No, I mean, I think it's a big problem. I don't know that it's the number one problem. I mean, in my view, For the future. In my view, the number one problem in the country is that we have a horrific, horrific public education system. I mean, we have the worst and, by the way, it's nothing new Going back to even when we were kids, yeah, but charter schools are coming to the rescue.
Speaker 2:Private schools are coming to the rescue, they're not though man they're not.
Speaker 1:We've had private schools.
Speaker 2:A lot of homeschooling happening right now Private schools have been around for a long time.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's a famous interview you can pull it up on YouTube that Justice Souter, former Supreme Court Justice, gave that he felt that the greatest threat to the country was that people don't know civics and so that's all. All of this, uh, political polarization is due, like in large part, to the fact that people just don't understand the way our country works, the way the laws work and you don't have to be a lawyer, I'm talking. People don't understand, like, the concept of the three branches of government and how laws are made.
Speaker 1:I don't, and so Right, and what happens is that you know there's no requirement for people to know it. Right, you know, and it's like think about it Like I don't know about you, but I remember growing up and watching kids that were complete fucking idiots like graduating, like they just graduate, everybody graduates.
Speaker 2:I had two. No, no, no. Idiots like graduating, like they just graduate, everybody graduates. I had two. No, no, I had two. I had two friends. I had two very close friends of mine. You know who they are. I'll tell you off air that graduated like um, it's not enough. What's when you can't write? I just forgot what it was illiterate.
Speaker 2:Illiterate I can't write illiterate illiterate two friends that you know how they learn to write text messages. That's how they learn to write, and they're still not exactly shining examples of of literature but they still can't write, they just no, yeah, because you got the autocorrect and everything like that, you know right, they can't write autocorrect, they write okay, they can write or not, but they write right.
Speaker 1:So, um, yeah, that, that, that, yeah, that is scary shit, yeah, and and and yet they get through school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's like it's just bullshit, bro, you just gotta show up yeah and like, and they're gonna get you through school, and the reason for that is because the schools will take a beating if they fail kids. Right, you know, so it's like so everything has gone away from the concept of merit. You know, there's a concept of the meritocracy where it's like everything is based on merit and right now we just do not have that. We're the opposite of that, and so it's so bad.
Speaker 2:You add that to the DEI situation. I mean, we're just headed down the wrong path.
Speaker 1:So what happens is and it's been many years in the making. So now it's like the adults that were adults when we were kids. They were better prepared than today's adults because they grew up in a less bullshit time, you know, and the education was better before. It's like that video that somebody was sending it around the other day about how it's. I see it on instagram every day, like you see all the kids in physical yeah, like they're all like in the 60s.
Speaker 1:They're all doing push-ups like they can all do monkey bars it's like right now. How many kids can fucking climb monkey bars like? I enjoy taking my daughter to the park. She's eight years old, bro. She gets on the fucking monkey bars and she's like this. She's fucking ripped and the little boys are like I work on my legs yeah, like literally.
Speaker 1:I had a little boy like she went up and she came back over the water and we were on a cruise and this and that and this little boy who couldn't do it is looking at her, and he was older and he was like I work on my legs and I was, and I, of course, I didn't say you sure thought it, though of course I was like sure you do, you know, and it's like because he's watching this girl that could like do it better than him.
Speaker 2:And so again, by the way, you could have also done it with the legs, and she would have beat him on the legs too, and if you had a rope to climb, he would have really.
Speaker 1:And that goes back to our point that it's not about having an issue with minorities or women or anyone in any particular segment of society. It's having an issue with the coddling, the making concessions for people that don't deserve it. And I'm telling you, in Plato's Republic it's a great book. Have you ever heard of it?
Speaker 1:I've heard of it, I heard it from you, so the whole concept of the book is that he literally goes through and he discusses every single form of government that existed as of that time and he ranks them all. Okay, and, by the way, he hated democracy. He felt that the only thing worse than democracy was despotism.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what he does is he goes through and he talks about every form of government and their pros, the good things and the flaws, and then at the end he describes what the perfect society would look like. Now, fact of the matter is nobody wants to live in Plato's Republic right Like it's, just not like. Now. Fact of the matter is nobody wants to live in plato's republic right like it's just not.
Speaker 2:Contrary to many, is it kind of like calvus republic?
Speaker 1:no no, it's like um, at first of all. It's like just to give you some ideas. Everyone is born with, like a specific role, okay, so like whether you fit for that role or you don't.
Speaker 2:No no, they make it so that you fit so I'm saying for example, they breed like like, my dad wanted me to play baseball right, so they did no.
Speaker 1:But it's not the parents, it's society like and and the and the.
Speaker 1:the government's ruled by what's called philosopher kings. Okay, and so these are the people that know best, and so they'll breed strong men and strong women to produce the soldiers. Okay, so that's going to be the fighting class. And then they find the smart people, and those people are going to be the doctors and they're going to be the engineers and things like that, and they take the kids away from family at birth. Okay so, and the reason why they do that is to create this, this concept of community, because you're going to encounter someone and, for all you know, it's your kid. Okay so, again, nobody wants to live in Plato's Republic.
Speaker 2:But what's interesting is there's a lot of cool concepts in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's interesting is that when he talks about democracy, he's got this very famous phrase in there that he says democracy is a peculiar form of government providing equality for equals and unequals alike. Okay, and the reason and the concept behind that is like you know, listen bro, we're just not all created equal. Okay, we're just not, you know. So I don't have a great head of hair. Okay, I'm not 6'2", I don't have a tremendous physique.
Speaker 1:So what am I going to do? Am I going to be upset about that? Like there's just nothing I can do? Like that, like there's just nothing I can do. Like you can't your best with what you right, right, and it's like if I always tell people if there were, if we found out that there were aliens, okay, and that there was an intergalactic congress and we finally got invited, humanely, finally got invited to participate, like in the, the, the galactic government, right. But they say to you, you have to send, send your two of your brightest and best, send. Send me one man, one woman. I'm absolutely not going to be picked. You might have to pick a guy like Tom Brady, right, because the guy can throw, he can talk he can speak, he looks good.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like that guy's the perfect specimen kind of thing. And so what happens is that when you tell people over and over and over again for 150 years that everyone is the same, that everyone is special, that everyone can achieve great things guess what those things are lies, Not everyone can achieve great things, they just can't, OK. So of course and it goes back to your point you can't be telling people hey, you can't achieve great things because you're black or because you're Hispanic or because you're a woman. But it's not. It may not necessarily be untrue to say to your kid you know, like my daughter she's, she loves gymnastics, she's a great gymnast. Frankly, I don't think she's going to be an Olympic gymnast. I'll tell you why. Because she's eight years old and she's very good at it, Okay. And then there's another little girl that's in her group that's eight years old and, bro, the little girl's like the Michael Jordan of gymnastics. Okay, and it's just.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that shit changes after puberty.
Speaker 1:It could, it could. But my point is, I didn't say I was certain, I said I don't think. And it's the same concept with like why you don't put Elijah in basketball, right, like right now. He could excel, he could be great, because at eight years old they're all more or less the same height, they're the same speed, the same this and that. But what happens is, at a certain point there starts to be like a separation. Okay, so of course do you crush.
Speaker 2:Do I crush my daughter's dreams and tell her hey, I don't think you're gonna go to the olympics?
Speaker 1:no, but what's the reality? Like there's like eight olympians, bro, you know what I mean. Like there's eight girls that go to the fucking olympics, or whatever the number is for gymnastics, and there are hundreds that miss it by a scintilla, you know. So it's. It's again, it's a concept that we have.
Speaker 2:That's not. That's not. Yeah, but that's not. The point is if you were to tell her that she's not going to make it because society yeah because she's hispanic and that white people don't want you to make it right, want to keep her down and society. And then what would make it even worse is if you spoke to the school or the olympics and say she, you need a spot for little hispanic girls from miami.
Speaker 1:Agree, that's where the problem happens. 100, you know what I mean and and as a society.
Speaker 2:So can we safely say that 50 of our population agrees with that dei stuff? I mean they vote for it. Or you think, out of that, 25, out of that, maybe half and half, or you know, I think that, for I, I think that like how bad is the problem?
Speaker 1:people. I don't think that's been the driving force of why they vote what happens is their hatred of trump well, a lot of people hate trump.
Speaker 1:They'll vote for anything other than trump, no doubt about that. But I mean as a general premise, like, how did the democratic party get to like these being like you know the um, the messages, and like their, their ideas? And I think it's largely it's a function of vote getting right. Because, again and another another Platonian concept of this is is that in the ideal society, nobody would run for office. Ok, like you'd have to beg people to be a politician because, by definition, the politician is supposed to serve others. And what do we see? What is the main complaint about politicians is that they serve themselves right. They lie, they want power.
Speaker 1:They all lie, right they all lie, they all want power. It's almost like the best liar is the one who gets it. And then, once they're in power, they want to keep power Right. And so, in the ideal society that Plato discusses, the ideal candidate does not want to be in office. You have to drag the person into being in office, because if the politician that does what he's supposed to do, that he's always at a personal disadvantage, right. Whereas to the contrary, being a politician creates a lot of personal advantages, right. I mean, we hear it all the time in the corruption and things like that. And so, again, the country is just so backwards on a lot of these, on a lot of these principles, that after a certain number of years it starts to become a problem. That's what I was saying about education. It like 30 years ago it was already bad, like when I was in school. 40 years ago it was bad.
Speaker 2:It created me. I graduated with a 1.5 gpa yeah, 40 years.
Speaker 1:I mean okay, but you have work ethic.
Speaker 2:So it's like you know, 40 years ago I also had parents that told me that anything was possible. Yeah, I also had parents that didn't say hey, man, you're a kid from the trailer park. You know you got to chill out with your goals, because I would tell them I'm gonna be a millionaire and I, you know, and I'm gonna, this is what I'm gonna do, and these are.
Speaker 2:They didn't say well, no, son, you know you got to understand you're a little spick from a trailer park, you know, chill out with the goals. You know the. You know the white man's not going to let you do that, right? I mean, just imagine me, right, I had every reason not to right, like, came to this country on a fucking shrimp boat, right? I mean obviously extremely poor for the majority of my life, of my childhood, right, but, man, I just had parents that said, hey, man, we came to this country. Here's another thing they love this country, right? So imagine you're growing up in a household that hates the country, the fucking country, in addition to, in addition to oh no, you hate this country because the white man is going to hold you. You're not going to be able to do. The only way you could succeed is if we create a slot for you in these universities and we create a slot for you in these jobs, right, because America is against you.
Speaker 2:And then you watch a sport Okay, and this is where you and I argue sometimes, and everything like that. Then you watch a sport because I don't, I don't want to watch a sport. That fucking, all they do is shit on the United States of America. I don't, I don't think I don't want my kid watching a first of all. You watch a sport and it's all LGBTQ commercials, right, am I wrong?
Speaker 1:no, no right.
Speaker 2:So it's again beat, listen, I, I have, I, I I have hired two gay people in the last I've joked around about. I'm like dude, I might go all gay. I mean, they're fucking people are awesome, right, like seriously, have I not said that? Listen, the the he means it in the best possible way. What better, what better way, can I say? But nobody forced me. Nobody forced me to hire gays. I just ended up. I don't care if you know what. Hey, here's the job. Can you do it right? And I hired them and hey, oh shit, you're well, one of them was whatever, yeah, it was. It was more evident than the other, right, but but hey, man, fucking awesome, you're gay, great, you know what?
Speaker 1:let's do it. You're a very funny, uh republican, uh political commercial from four years ago, the prior election when mayor pete was running for president, and uh, they did. Man kevin, if you can find it well, we should pull it up, we should play it. But it was a commercial where they they went through and they analyzed every candidate on the democratic side, like every single one, and they shit on all of them. It was so funny. But when they got to mayor pete it was like mayor pete gay and it's a big deal I mean nobody gives a fuck man.
Speaker 2:Listen again. And I say it because literally in the last what six months, right, I've hired two, two gay, two gay kids, right for, like, important positions in my company. Right, dude, I don't give a fuck, if you're gay can you do the job or not. Right 100. But in man, if I would have hired them.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna hire you because you're gay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah I mean, I I'm pretty sure I'm gonna ask them if they want to come in here. And how would they feel if I say I hired you specifically because you're fucking gay?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, you know what I mean like, but the problem is that there's a there's a large group of people out there that are that are good with that with what with who hire you because you're gay? Yeah yeah, and again, that's, that's part of the fuck up, and so it look, it's like it's out, it's in the open. Now you know, and that's the whole thing. So there's like again. I have relatives, family members.
Speaker 2:You've got a lot of fucking gay people on your side.
Speaker 1:Relative I've been to, gay weddings are the best times I've ever had, et cetera, but they are a little more fun in weddings.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, they're better dressed. Well, what? What other stereotypes do you want um?
Speaker 1:but good dancers. But what's what's amazing about it is that I think there's a large segment of that population that are outraged with what's going on 100 today, I would say what I would say 80 of the days are disgusted with what's going on and then.
Speaker 1:And then there's, you know. Then of course there's the vocal much and again, I say it all the time the social media, the internet, these are huge cancers, bro, because everyone has a microphone. I mean, look at us, we're just two fucking dumb fucks. And who knows how many people are going to listen to this. Some people, inevitably, are going to comment these guys are fucking idiots, these guys are racist, these guys are this, these guys are that. And then there going to be others that are like, oh, this is amazing. And then this is going to prompt other people to fucking do a podcast. I mean, I, sebastian rusk, our buddy brother, sells podcasts. Yeah, can you imagine the guys got like a business, yeah, selling pockets. I used to tell him all the time like, bro, you're gonna starve doing that.
Speaker 1:Who the fuck wants to start a podcast, bro, like nobody's trying and it's like everyone's gonna have a fucking podcast now, and then I'm telling you, it's these people, brilliant people say things and they become, uh, legendary statements. Like you know I think it was andy warhol in the future, everyone's going to have their 15 minutes of fame. Okay, and that's literally happening. So everyone. So think about it. The press. People are like oh, the press, the press. A hundred years ago the press was like five things okay.
Speaker 2:So now everyone is pressed I mean right at the beginning of television it was like two things right, it was two channels, two channels, two channels.
Speaker 1:You had to get up and move it two channels. I was talking to my daughter about it the other day.
Speaker 1:She was shocked yeah, we were talking about this the other day and and um, she sees a tv. I forgot where we were, man, and it was like an old box, like a tube, a tube tv. And she was like, is that the tv you had when you were a kid? And I was like something like that. And she was like and like, what would you watch? And I was like, well, there was only a few channels. And she was like what do you mean?
Speaker 1:there was only a few netflix yeah and then my, my wife was like yeah, and when something was on you had to watch it then.
Speaker 2:So you know, like, like there was this shit about you have to watch it then.
Speaker 1:So you know like there's shit about on.
Speaker 2:You have to be ready for at eight o'clock because that's going to come on and you can fucking pause.
Speaker 1:That was 20 years ago. Right right, you can pause live television now.
Speaker 2:Right, I remember when that happened like five years ago I was like whoa TiVo, it was TiVo, it was TiV came out, I was like yeah, no, no, and so I'm telling her, I'm like, so at first there was only a few channels and there was no internet.
Speaker 1:And she was like no internet. I'm like, yeah, maybe there was no internet. And she was like, well, how would the tv like, how would you watch tiktok? Yeah, no, no. Like how would the tv like know what to play? And I was, was like it had an antenna, and she's like what's an antenna. And I'm like, yeah, you know, like these, the fucking rabbit ears, you know it would have this thing that came out and in the air, and sometimes you had to move it around Right, bro, and it would come in the air Okay and like, and there were and remember the bathroom to come back before the, the tv came back, and so you know again the.
Speaker 1:With the advent of technology has come a lot of the dumbing down of america, so a bunch of things have come together a horrific education system that has been in place for, let's say, 50, 60, 70 years, and after 70 years of pumping out idiots, the vast majority of people are fucking idiots. Yeah, richard, but I want to. It's like dude everyone has all. Everyone has a compendium of all human knowledge in their fucking pocket and nobody knows shit. Yeah, Can you explain?
Speaker 2:that, yeah, but again, the reason why it's scary is back to the whole, you know. So I have a kid right I have is back to the whole, you know. So I, I have a kid right, I have a imagine, I have a hispanic kid right and I spend. You know I'm gonna backtrack and start over because I stopped, you know, at the sports thing, right, um, and the commercial thing. So, hey, hey, man, you know you can't make it because you're a little hispanic kid from miami. You don't chill out with the goals, like, just speak, you know you can't do this and this because the white man. And then they watch a commercial, then they watch tv and they watch a sport, the sport that they like or it's entertaining, and then there is, you know, every other commercial sentiment, every other commercial right is, you know, uh, you're gay, you're okay, and again I got.
Speaker 2:Obviously I just mentioned I have zero problems with gays. But I mean, you know, if we, if I spent my whole, if I got a kid, and all I spent all day was telling them how heterosexual I am right, that'd be fucking weird, wouldn't it? Yeah, right, like literally, if I, if I just did a commercial on how heterosexual I am, and you know, and, and, and I and I have only have sex with women, and, and, and here let me kiss this, let me tongue this woman, and it's fucking weird because it's a kid. Right, it's a fucking kid, so it's, it's just the, the, the constant bringing up of sexuality is what's fucking weird. It's not what sexuality? Yeah, right, it's, it's, it's just, it's unnecessary.
Speaker 2:So if I'm growing, if I'm raising a kid, right, I tell them hey, you can't make it because you're this and this and this and, by the way, fucking America sucks. You hate this place. As a matter of fact, when they bring out the national anthem, you're going to kneel for it, just like your sports heroes kneel for it. Okay, that I mean. How the fuck does that kid make it through that? Uh, like, I don't know, it's like an obstacle course of of of excuses and uh, uh, reasons why you know they should, you know, hate everything around them. Like, how do you make it through that?
Speaker 1:and that is systematic and it's funny, but and it's, it's so true because it used to be that the inverse was true. Right where, like every day in school, I don't, I don't know if they do it anymore, I'm not, I'm not in school, but every day we used to have to stand up for the pledge of allegiance, right, in fact, and and think of, by the way people say it and they don't, they don't hear what the words mean the Pledge of Allegiance.
Speaker 2:I'm pledging allegiance.
Speaker 1:You're allegiance to the country. At FREC we do it. We stand up for the Pledge. Every meeting starts with the Pledge of Allegiance.
Speaker 2:What if you upset somebody? What if somebody gets offended by that?
Speaker 1:There's no concept of that. By the way, in the years that I've been there, I've never once seen somebody not stand OK or not do the pledge. And it's literally on my script as chair and it's like you know welcome to the June or July 17th 2024 meeting, the Florida Real Estate Commission. My name's, you know, richard Barber. I'm the chair. You know, please stand and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance to our flag. And then I have to name a commissioner, commissioner Kenyar, commissioner Price, and then that person starts it.
Speaker 1:No, the Pledge of Allegiance.
Speaker 2:I pledge allegiance. And so they start. Yeah, they start.
Speaker 1:Oh really, the rest of the room kind of comes up, and so, but man, these things these concepts are have been eroded, Like now it's being anti-American is cool, you know, like and so. And I have a very dear friend of mine is one of the smartest guys I know. I went to law school with him. I haven't seen him in years but we keep in touch, you know on the internets.
Speaker 1:And you know he's a big critic of the country, but I don't doubt his love of the country. Country like, one thing is you want the country to improve, big difference. And right, you know you want the country to improve. And then there's these other people that are just bro, it's anti-american sentiment and it defies logic because it's like do you see?
Speaker 2:I mean people are fucking die trying to get here literally put their fucking lives at risk to get here and, by the way, you know like, if you hate it so much, get the fuck out of here why can't you get the fuck out of here? What kind of asshole I mean people move all the time, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:Imagine what kind of idiot you have to be to walk around suggesting that the country is garbage, when this is where everyone in the world wants to be primarily. I mean, that's not true?
Speaker 2:well, you're driving from right from when you're driving from point A to B, you know, look, I'm in Miami, right. So I get people from Venezuela, colombia, ecuador. I mean you ask those people why are you here? It's because it's safe. Yeah, I'm not going to get kidnapped, I'm not going to get killed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't got to worry about getting shot.
Speaker 2:I don't got to worry about getting shot, going to get a fuck. I don't got to worry about somebody extorting my business going and saying hey, I have a little mom and pop shop, you're gonna give me 20 a day or I'm gonna fuck you up like you don't have to worry about that, right? Listen, man, you know, I say it all the time. Like these south americans that come here, they love private communities. They will a it's almost like exclusively. They live in private communities, like with a gate and a guard. And I realized, I don't know, 10 years into this, I'm like these fucking people. The reason why is because they that's what they're used to. They have to live, they have to have that level Quarantine. That level of quarantine because that's what they're used to Like in the building. It's like you pick a building over there, like my wife's Venezuelan right, kidnapping is part of your day-to-day operations over there.
Speaker 2:One time, when we first got married, she's like well, I got to go back to Venezuela. I'm like I don't think it's a good idea. She's like, well, I gotta go back to venezuela. I'm like I don't think it's a good idea. She's like, well, no, I have to because I have to listen, I'm like, listen, I'm telling you right now that's not a good idea and what I don't want you to do is put me on a fucking mission, because if you get kidnapped, right, it's my fucking problem. Yeah, like now I gotta go and figure out how I'm gonna unkidnap you In a third world country, right, with money, with violence, with whatever. Like don't go. She went, guess what happened? She, they, it was a gunpoint attempted kidnapping. And I always joke about what my wife repeats things like a motherfucker she'll repeat the same fucking thing a hundred times. She annoyed. She repeated the same thing to these people until they let her go, but it was gun to the head.
Speaker 1:Take your shit you imagine they were like fuck it, let's get somebody else pick somebody else.
Speaker 2:This one's gonna repeat the fuck out of things. You know, um, dude, gun to her head, gun to her head. You know like, uh, they took her car, they took her purse, they took everything and they tried to take her in the car. They just did it because she was annoying them. That's my theory, right, um, but you know so, when they come over here, they just want safety, man, that's it. Like. I just want to live like a life. Yeah, what's that president that we love? Bukele, what is that? That's Salvador? Is that Salvador? Or Ecuador, el Salvador? I mean, those people just wanted to live, man, without getting killed, without getting those tattooed-faced guys. That guy is so good, what a man. Listen, I don't want to meet a lot of people in this world. I've got to meet that guy at some point. I've got to meet that guy at some point.
Speaker 1:He's got a great one where he's a human rights activist.
Speaker 1:He's throwing bananas about the way he's treating these people, he's put 40,000 of them in jail 40, about the way he's treating these 40,000 of them in jail, these, these 40,000 that's a city and the way that they treat them. You know, perfect, right. And so, um that he was like no, because you know one of these. One of these people asked me if, um, if there would be chicken for these prisoners, if they would eat chicken, and I said they will eat chicken after every salvadoran who's not a fucking delinquent? And after that, when our police, uh, officers have chicken, and when all of our hospital workers eat chicken, and when all of our children eat chicken, and when all the dogs that are wonderful, that are people's loved pets, when they eat chicken.
Speaker 1:If there's any leftover right after all this shit, then those fucking scumbags will have fucking chicken, you know. And he's like no, these people are fucking outraged. He's like come get them, bro, come get them, take them and go, take them and take care of them. And do this and, and and the world. I think we're seeing a lot of this, a lot of these kinds of politicians uh argentina yeah, because, yeah, because, because, bro, people are tired of the bullshit.
Speaker 1:I firmly believe that we're at this like inflection, pendulum point, where, where people are just like again, it's like there is such a thing as overdoing it right and they've overdone and this has been overdone and it's like again. A lot of people say that, oh, the pendulum has to swing and all that. And then, you know, eventually it corrects itself. But man, like this swing is is painful and it's damaging to the country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's, uh listen and and let me talk about, like separation, and and this will be the most, probably the most controversial fucking thing I say right. So, um, I grew up, um, playing basketball, right, I don't know, 80 of my teammates were black. Right, I always say, always say this story. So I got invited. I don't know if you remember Tiffany I'm not going to say her last name, whatever, but Tiffany, huge, she was a basketball player, a white girl. She gets married to a black guy.
Speaker 1:Oh, I do remember, remember that story. Yeah, no, well, I don't remember the story.
Speaker 2:I remember her. So man yeah she, yeah she. She gets married to a black guy, right? Um, super nice guy, great guy. The whole situation, um, I get invited to her wedding, right. But um, her wedding was like you walk in and like, literally, black people are on one side, white people are on the other side, like, and I'm like, all right, well, she put me with the black people the funner side of the room, like, right, this is where, this is where the people are drinking more fun no funner.
Speaker 2:Um, that's the side I'm like. Oh, that's the side I want to be on right. So I I didn't even think twice, like I've started walking towards that area, figuring finding my table, and she put me on the white side. I'm like and I like, why'd you fucking put me on the fucking white? I ended up leaving the white side and sitting on the black side. This was 2010. 98% of the music that I listen to is black music or rap music, hip hop, whatever. That's how I grew up, I grew up in. You know, in that year that in that era where you know you, 90s hip-hop is the best, 90s hip-hop is all I let. Shit. My son is pretty much what he listens to, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Presidents come and go, but wu-tang is forever.
Speaker 2:Wu-tang is absolutely forever. You know what I mean? Absolutely. I've had one sticker in my whole life in my car. It's been a Wu-Tang sticker. I've never had any bumper stickers or anything like that. So so what I'm trying to say is, like you know, so, my entire life I voted Democrat. My entire life, right, all the way to Obama, right. So I voted for a black president twice, okay, in the last four years. Okay, um, with this whole BLM shit and this whole Antifa shit and everything like that, I, if I will tell you right now, if I go to that same wedding 2024, jesus, I'm probably not going to sit on the black side, right, and let me tell you why. Um, it is for whatever reason. I don't know why this has happened. The culture, that culture, has become hate america, right, like what? Why it's? It's, it's, you know, nfl, the kneeling, the, uh, the. Are you texting or listening what?
Speaker 1:are you?
Speaker 2:I'm both, okay, um, so yeah, man, I don't know what, what separated our country, what the fuck has happened where I feel a separation, like I'm the hispanic guy and I'm leaning towards the white guys more. What's what's happened? There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a cycle, something's happened, right like something's, something's, some phenomenon has happened where it's like, dude, what the fuck is going, where's the separation and what? And what worries me is that it was fabricated, right like how, how severe, like I asked ethan the other day, right, so, ethan, ethan is, is, is, um, is jewish? Right, and I go hey, man, have you ever felt any anti-semitism or anything like that? He's like, he's like no, not really. You know what I mean. So, but you hear in the news right now it's all fucking, oh, oh, you know everybody hates. You know the and the Palestine thing and everything like that.
Speaker 2:So what I'm saying is has the? Has social media gotten to my fucking head, right when I'm starting to where you know it is? It is gotten to the point where you know, if I ask 10, you know African-Americans in the street. Hey, man, do you feel racism? I wonder if 80% of them will say no, and that's why I wanted to get, you know, the guests that we had on today before we fucked up the zoom was really to ask, ask those questions. You know what I mean. Like I wonder how enhanced this is and how, um, you know how exaggerated it is, where it's gotten, you know, the country separated because I'm not the only one that feels that way. I'm not the only one that's gotten those feelings recently that has spent my whole life thinking one way, thinking Democrat, right, and you know, yeah, let's just talk about that. Like why the hell have I turned absolutely Republican? I'm extreme Republican at this point, from Democrat to extreme Republican, like I don't know. I don't know what the fuck's happened, but I think something's happened.
Speaker 1:So I agree. I think so first. First of all, people change. So what I mean by people change is and there's a, there's a comedian bro Guy named Shane Gillis yeah, Very funny.
Speaker 2:He's a comedian bro. There's a guy named Shane Gillis. Yeah, yeah, very funny, he's a fucking man. Yeah, I know Shane Gillis.
Speaker 1:And he's got this one bit that he talks about. I know all of them, so yeah, how you become Republican as you get older.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, as you get older.
Speaker 1:And he even finishes it like so His dad, Right, he's like your dad, you don't start as a huge fucking dick. He says.
Speaker 1:You know, like, like because republicans generally they're considered to be fucking dicks right you know, and he's like, and, and he goes on the rant and then at the end he's like and mermaids are white, by the way. I mean that that's very important, you know, because of the whole backlash when they remade little mermaid and the, the little mermaid was a black girl, right? And so what happens is that I think it's a combination of you get older and it's like the classic line of get off my lawn. Okay, because, honestly, like who gives a fuck that they remade the little mermaid and the mermaid is a black girl? Like who gives a fuck? Like my daughter saw the little mermaid the cartoon and she saw the little mermaid the movie and like she didn't come out like at eight years old but that's not what really got me.
Speaker 2:I get it, I get it, but what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:is our sensitivity to things changes over as we get older. That's not what really got me. I get it. I get it, but what I'm saying is our sensitivity to things changes over as we get older. That's number one. Number two I think that the issue that you're describing, the phenomenon, does exist, but then it's amplified. Okay, and when you say, did social media get me, I think it gets all of us. Okay, and I firmly believe in this concept of like, the algorithm, because, again, and I firmly believe in this, this um concept of like the algorithm because again, like if I open our friend's phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, all conspiracy everything is conspiracy, bro.
Speaker 1:Everything that they feed him. Every video he's got is of crimes. You know every so. So what happens is that he opens it. That's all he sees, bro. And then, on top of that, and I firmly believe, too, that people are weak minded- yeah, but so when you? Have a weak mind, bro, you're influenced.
Speaker 2:But then you turn on ESPN and you're watching basketball, and then I get it. It's mainstream as well, but, but I so I have a tattoo of a basketball on my body, right Like I have a tattoo of a basketball and I don't fucking watch basketball right now. Right, I get it.
Speaker 1:I don't want a sport that hates every star, hates america yeah, I don't fucking like it.
Speaker 2:I don't know that they hate america. Uh, richard, they don't stand for the national anthem.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but but again, right but I don't know that they hate america. That's just the way what they're doing is is packaged for everyone to create this outrage like separation I firmly believe that there are people that like spin everything, so like yesterday. I'll give you a good example. Yesterday in our group chat, someone and they'll remain nameless sends a video suggesting that the democrats are now adopting the slogan make america great well, there's one video of them.
Speaker 1:Okay, hold on, hold on hold on, I'm gonna tell you what I did. Okay, okay, and. And then, not only is does the video come through, but then the caption on it was guess what phrase the democrats are adopting now? And then it's like dot, dot, dot. No, I'm not kidding, right? Okay, okay, and so that whole phrase that whole post.
Speaker 1:the purpose of the post is to piss people off, to create outrage. Yeah, okay, that person who did that, bro, they have no like. In my view. They're bad people, these people that like so division.
Speaker 2:Why they did not say that.
Speaker 1:They did. But what happens is I went and pulled like the whole video and what they were doing was they were mocking Trump. They were saying they were saying the guy that wants to make America great again, you know, wants to, you know, eliminate women's right to choose. He wants to, you know, put people in camps. He wants to kick out. All these hardworking people have been in the country for fucking 20 years and do the jobs that nobody wants to do. These hardworking people have been in the country for fucking 20 years and do the jobs that nobody wants to do. And then and then they were like what we want is this and what we want is this. And so it was like one of these things of using the phrase against them, like the Democrats aren't actually going to start saying make America great again as their slogan, and so what?
Speaker 2:they are trying to get people without citizenship to vote no man what do you mean?
Speaker 1:oh man, no, no. So so again, again, listen, we can. I can shit on democratic talking points and and there are lefty division sowers all day. I'm not taking a side. What I'm saying is that part of this phenomenon of the separation is that what we didn't have when we were younger, what didn't exist because there was no social media, okay, was people who had unlimited access or unlimited ability to expose people with weak minds.
Speaker 2:Okay to divisive Renting space in their head.
Speaker 1:Right To divisive ideas, like now. It is a cottage industry of people who purposefully wake up in the morning and their job is to drive americans into separate corners. That's their job. That's literally what their job to do. And guess what? They're fucking good at it, yeah, and so.
Speaker 2:So that's why I'm asking you, so you're thinking, so I'm asking straight up. So that wedding situation, the fact that you know I would probably sit on the other side of the wedding now, and I think that you'd find 14, 13 years later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, I would probably sit where I was, pissed off, upset, insulted, that I sat on the white side of the fucking thing. Right, I wanted to sit on the white side of the fucking thing. Right, I wanted to sit on the fun side. Okay, 13, and not even 13, because you could go five, right. Um, best friends growing up black Marvin Jack, I mean, I play basketball, those are my guys, those are the guys that slept over my house. You know what I mean, like that. And now, all of a sudden, I'm like God man, what the fuck's going on here, dude, like they hate me. They hate me, right I?
Speaker 1:think you'd so.
Speaker 2:I'm going to hate them.
Speaker 1:That's really the, I think. I think you'd find that it's not as bad as you think, right.
Speaker 2:And I was back to the point where I think it's heightened, which, by the way, growing up I didn't know.
Speaker 1:In school you learn about racism and the whole shit and the civil rights movement and all that and I'll be honest with you, I didn't really understand the concept Like I never. You know, and it would supposedly, people you know we've sent the photos in the group chat about. Like you know, keep the fucking Cubans out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know and all that.
Speaker 1:And I'll be honest with you, I never experienced any of that. I of that, I've been called the Spickbeard. And then when I went to law school okay, which was in St Petersburg, and it was 20 plus years ago already I got there and I realized, whoa, there are no like Spanish people in my law school Like Cindy and I were like but Cindy doesn't even look at you.
Speaker 1:No, Cindy and I were like among the very few, like Spicks, in law school, and I remember that it was that time up there in that area, which is in saint pete, which, again, which is a pretty big little city, that I experienced for the first time like the feeling from people that because I was spanish, like somehow I was like not american, like I used to get it all the time, there was this one kid I'm not going to mention his name, but dude, I remember that he fucking hated me just because I was from miami, bro, and when the hurricanes it was like that year the hurricanes were, they had won the national title the year before and they were going to repeat and there was a bad call at the very end of the game and they lost to ohio state.
Speaker 1:And I'll never forget, bro, that the next day the kid made it a point to be like that's what happens when the fucking, you know, you fucking spics run into the big 10. You know, whatever the fuck, wherever ohio state, they weren't here to speak to you I know.
Speaker 1:But and again, that was just ignorant. But I remember thinking I'm like dude, I've never kind of experienced that before, where it's like their default was this disdain now. Did it traumatize me? Did I cower back into a corner and I'm?
Speaker 2:like oh my god, now everybody's trying to.
Speaker 1:No, I don't give a fuck about it, but I do remember that. I then realized I'm like, oh shit, this phenomenon is out there and so for people in big cities it doesn't happen as much. Okay, like, and, by the way, that's why big cities are always left leaning, because, by nature, the diversity of thought is there, nature, the, the diversity of of thought is there, there's, you know, there's again. Think about miami, it's like you said, there's. But we walk outside and fucking throw a rock in any direction. You could hit a brazilian, you could hit a venezuelan you can hit a fucking cuban.
Speaker 2:You know it's like yeah, but in fact you're unlikely to hit a gringo so my question for sure, uh, and the three of them have been in this, in this office for whatever reason, and in this podcast. So my question is really I've kind of come to grip, like I've narrowed down what I think my question is right. Um, my question is is it being exaggerated? And have I been brainwashed, right and and? And that's my question and I'm gonna answer it. Um, I'm gonna answer it with another question. If you see somebody with an american flag, right, do you see somebody with an american flag on their boat or on their car or on the outside of their house? What do you? If you had to gun to your head, you had to pick the Republican or Democrat, what would you?
Speaker 1:what would you? Obviously you'd say the Republican.
Speaker 2:Why? Obviously go.
Speaker 1:Well, because I think that in the past five years there's been this. Let's go back in the past 10 years since the the cancel culture phenomenon came up. One of the things that was has been the subject of attempted cancellation is the american flag. In fact, there's a famous political activist I can't think of her name right now who literally proposed a new american flag where, like, the colors changed and all this kind of shit, et cetera. And so what? What happens is that Well, the national anthem.
Speaker 1:Right, no, no, no, everything like that. So they say the American flag, um, uh, it makes people feel bad. The American flag, uh, makes, uh, gives people anxiety. You know we're not going to fly the American flag in certain places. And then what happens? These professional division sewers get a hold of that and then they blast it and, yes, they exaggerate it. So it's a combination of like. When you hear a sound like a guitar okay, an electric guitar if you play without the amplifier it doesn't sound like anything.
Speaker 1:But once you turn the amplifier on, you know it makes all the noise so it's a combination of the phenomenon exists, and then they amplify the phenomenon and then it takes a hold of people's mind. So in the past 10 years, because of, because of people wanting to say that there's something wrong with the American flag, it drives other people to be like you're trying to take the American flag away, I'm going to put it on my car, I'm going to put it on my house, I'm going to put it on my fucking windows and that creates again. It's both things.
Speaker 2:But the reason why I bring that up is because the reason I think that the separation has happened and it's not me, it's myself and the Hispanics, this fucking phone man, God damn, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:You're supposed to have a face down like, like I know, man, but fuck, it's hard to do that. What I'm saying is that I think it's the american flag maybe that has separated us, right? So then, the reason why remember, I told you the white wedding and the black side on the white side and everything like that um, in the last five years, hispanics are usually very american flag and very american because, holy shit, we had to escape hell. Yeah, I had to come on a fucking trip boat to come over here and leave communism. So, yeah, man, I'm fucking american, right? So maybe it's that, like, specifically, it's the american, the love of America and the use of the American flag that has kind of separated the country into into two.
Speaker 1:Right? No, no, I don't think so. I think it's. I think it's the people that have these ridiculous fucking notions about the flag and that it stands for.
Speaker 2:You know, racism and everything stands for racism, and then it's fucking.
Speaker 1:Everything stands for keeping people down and the colonialism, you know, and like this fucking bullshit, extreme left, ideology, right, and then that creates an equal and opposite reaction. So the more people that that are the fuck the american flag, then you get the opposite reaction. It's like dude, I have an, I fly an american flag at my house. Like it hangs over my garage, Okay, but when we joke in our texts, it's like you guys accused me of being a Democrat. I'm dude. I've been a registered Republican my whole life. In fact, I voted.
Speaker 2:Republican. You're technically. On paper you're more Republican than I am.
Speaker 1:Right, and I mean with very few exceptions. I vote Republican in almost every election, not for anything other than usually. I think they're that those are the candidates that better align with my, with my views on like fiscal conservatism. And you know, it used to be more of a party of like leaving people alone, ok, and I think that they've gotten away from that a little bit, you know. So it's like it's very difficult to say like, for example, very difficult to say like, for example, you know, oh, I support, you know, parental choice, parental choice in schools, but then you want to like ban parents from like taking kids to a fucking tranny show. It's like. So it's. Can the parents choose, or can the parents only choose if they choose what I like?
Speaker 2:So saying is it's very. That's a tough one. I mean they've, I know, but but it's, the democrats have taken it to the fucking extreme. So, hey, man, you can't. If I see your kid transitioning, I I don't have to tell you about it. I mean, so now it's like you're for you're, like you're being forced into it no, and again but, but, and see but, but here's and I get it and I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you brought that up, because one of the things that has always been a Republican principle is the concept of states' rights, a smaller federal government Right. And take the abortion issue, which is a hot button issue. Okay, like me personally.
Speaker 2:I'm so in the middle on that one.
Speaker 1:No, me personally, Me personally.
Speaker 2:What are you on that? I'm pro-choice.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I'm pro-choice, okay, okay, I'm pro-choice. That being said, i-.
Speaker 2:I could argue. Can you argue both sides, though? Because I could argue both sides? Yeah, of course I could argue the fuck out. I know you're an attorney, I'm a lawyer, it's my job.
Speaker 1:I know, but I'm pro-choice. And the reason why 100? Yeah, I'm pro-choice. Okay, I'm pro-choice. And the reason why is because I think that that is a more republican value than banning it. Okay, like because I'm for small government. Yeah, like I don't want the government to the extent I'm going to do possible.
Speaker 1:I don't want the government telling me what I can and can't do. To the extent possible, obviously, the government tells us what we can and can't do in every level of our lives. Can we go outside and drive 150 miles an hour? No, we can't. Can we kill people? No, we can't. So obviously there are laws and there are rules and that's a form of the government telling us what we can and can't do. But my point is to the extent possible, I don't want the government telling me what I can and can't do. Similarly, even though I'm pro choice, I am content. I am fine with any state whose democratically elected legislators ban abortion in that state. You want to know why? Because that's democracy's democracy, dude. So, like, my wife will be watching tv and it'll be like oh, alabama just passed like a sweeping abortion ban and she's like this is fucking ridiculous. Like you know, the federal government should like make it.
Speaker 1:That's what they voted for, but what I'm saying is that's what those people voted for, so it's like so miami is going to vote different or afford the different than what in seattle. You know right, so in california. So and that goes back to the thing about the school so in california that's what they love that's what they fucking love, and that's what I love, the tranny shit.
Speaker 2:And if you're a, republican.
Speaker 1:You should embrace that because you should believe in the concept, not embrace the philosophy.
Speaker 2:Embrace that that's what they want to do over there. That's how democracy, and if you lived there you're obviously OK with it, so good for you.
Speaker 1:That's how democracy works. So, again, in my view, we've, we've. People lose sight of their inconsistent. Everyone is like. You know, I used to have a con law professor that used to say where you sit depends on where you stand. Ok, on which side of the, on which side of the room, for example. So it's like dude you, you know, it's like the, the people, the inconsistency on both sides is just incredible, like. So if you're consistent and and and I have what I believe are consistently republican principles, small government, fiscal conservatism, states, right you can't nitpick and choose what you want like you have to.
Speaker 1:There has to be immutable concepts that guide your politics.
Speaker 2:That's the way I do it. So there is no perfect candidate.
Speaker 1:Right Politics are not team sports. There's a great article I'll send it actually in the chat and we should, we should, we should do a podcast on it on the analysis about how and when politics started to become more and more polarized. And it was because CNN brought on a guy from ESPN. I'll never forget I forget the guy's name, but I'll never forget watching the video and they do this analysis on how, all of a sudden, they started to make these political talk shows look like sports talk shows, where they have people on two sides and they bring people on to just be agitators. So if you notice on CNN, they'll have like five people here that are left leaning and then they'll bring the one Republican guy and they'll sit him over here.
Speaker 1:And his job will just be to agitate them and say the most outrageous shit. And they did that. Why? Why? To drive ratings up, right? So so the concept goes away. It used to be that people were like oh, I miss the days when the news walter crunkite would come on and just give us the facts and it's like yeah, but you know why that was possible? Because, as we discussed, four channels there was four fucking channels, bro, but when there's 44 channels, all about you gotta make the most noise you gotta have, you gotta get eyes, you gotta get clicks.
Speaker 1:So so sensationalism and think, going away from the, the importance of things a huge concept in philosophy too. It's like how can you be a great doctor if you have to be a doctor to make money?
Speaker 2:like you can't like by definition.
Speaker 1:You know it's like doctors recommend surgeries that people don't really need, because they need to fucking c-section.
Speaker 2:C-section right because they need to like 30 years ago nobody had c-section, now it's c-section because you make fucking 30 grand or something contrary to the hippocratic oath yeah, right, like you know you're supposed to take care of people, but the problem is you have these conflicts all the time.
Speaker 1:Same thing with being a lawyer. You know, listen again, I'm probably not a millionaire lawyer because I routinely are a millionaire.
Speaker 1:I would. Ok, whatever, no, no, I wish I'm a Miami millionaire, Nice car, but don't ask me for 50 bucks. So, so what happens is even the cast is laughing. What happens is I routinely talk people out of like hiring me because what I want to do is take the fee, right, but then I'm like man, that's not, this is, it's, that's me winning, that's not like solving the problem, okay, and, and I think a lot of good professionals do that. But then there are guys, bro, that they'll take anything, bro, like they'll take any. You walk in, you have the biggest shit case ambulance chaser type.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, and the biggest shit hold on.
Speaker 2:I can't talk, the fuck is she power calling or power?
Speaker 1:texting power, calling um you, they that you'll have this fucking issue. Bro, you know that, um, it's like people don't do what's best for, like as part of their profession, like they don't do what they're supposed to do because they have this overarching obligation to generate money. You know, and and again I've said it a few times today the country is is very backwards on a number of things, like we've lost our way on a number of things. Allegiance to the country, education is bad, the polarization is bad and and it's difficult to undo, it's like inertia, it's like trying to turn a cruise ship. You know, that's fucking sliding, fucking downhill, you know, and you don't have any propulsion. I mean, it's just, it's very difficult to to correct these issues and it's like you said the other day uh, it's a. I hate to agree with you, but you said something like we need a really fucking like a bad war, like you know, like we need a claim it's that?
Speaker 2:it's that old Five billion people have to disappear. Easy times create weak men, right? And that's the stage we're at right now. We're weak men, right? Did you see the JD Vance? Now all the JD Vance stuff is coming out and he's grilling the FAA with all the, the, the, that world, that FAA world, the, the, the flight industry, and everything is as bad as it's been in my lifetime. And they had a fucking 120 page, fucking memo on not using the word, the word airman, and like and like, you know, and like the word wife JD Vance is like. Well, tell me how the word wife, like comes into it. And of course it's a the guy who's in charge of the FAA. I don't, and I'm going to be fair. I don't know if he's qualified or not, right, but he's a black man, right. I don't know if he was put in their DI or not, but you see what I'm saying, guys. Whether he's, whether he earned the job or not, is one thing, but now he's going in there and now everything is the, everything, the fucking way.
Speaker 1:Answer to how does he?
Speaker 2:didn't know how to answer the word wife. He didn't know how to answer the other one, the other and the other weird questions. He said look, the pilots that are coming in the next years or so are not going to look like me and you. We need to have more inclusive language in our, in the way we operate, to be able to get these people over here, which the guy was very eloquent, to be honest with you. He at the the fucking out of all the dei morons that I've seen, motherfuckers prepared right like he was ready to. He answered all the questions, he was smooth with his answers and everything. But again, it's all based on. There was another one like everything had to be like super in the middle because you, you're erasing they wanted to erase gender from the flight situation from air communication and I'm a big disney fan, to be clear.
Speaker 2:I just came back, actually, but they don't say boys and girls anymore right, they say friends you know what I'm saying, like where did gender become an issue?
Speaker 1:no, and for how many? What size segment of the population? Point what, like you, can't say kevin?
Speaker 2:what, what? What percentage of the population is gay? And we should and we could, we could. What deduct 50 from that?
Speaker 1:because the well by the way, have you seen that bill bill mayer skit on on like the percentage of you know of gay people in the over time and where they are? Yeah, have they grown, and at this point it's like 50.
Speaker 2:He's like are like are all the babies coming in the wrong bodies now you know, it's like now again and, by the way, but you also, you also said that they were all in in particular areas, proving the point that it's a social issue, yeah, and a mental um that?
Speaker 1:what's the name of that?
Speaker 2:super hot chick that has three tranny kids megan fox, all the kids, oh yeah, were born one gender and they're the other gender now, yeah, all fucking three. Yeah, like, what are the fucking chances? Again, it's, you're born gay man. Listen, I have a conversation. I've had the conversation with both of my kids. Hey, listen, I'm gonna be honest. Rather not, it's a pain in the ass, right, I'm gonna be honest, it makes life harder it makes life harder.
Speaker 2:I think any gay person would absolutely admit that, but I would love you just the same. I've had to have that conversation because not that any of them are showing signs of it, but I I want to get that out of the way a little bit because you don't want to. You don't want that stigmatize it well, yeah, and you don't want I joke around about it all the time. You know I I'll even throw jokes, hey, you know, like if elijah wears pink or something like that. But hey, listen man, you know I'll fucking.
Speaker 1:You know I'm still gonna love you, right, and that's like that's. That's what what most people would call not, I'm sorry, that's what most left-leaning people would call toxic masculinity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like you can't even make it.
Speaker 1:Have you seen the South Park episode? No, that's the thing. There needs to be more of this, bro.
Speaker 2:South Park has slid under the radar for years, Like nobody ever has and ever will they have these.
Speaker 1:the kids are like in Congress, okay, like they're testifying before like a House committee and they're being grilled on their use of the word faggot. Oh, yeah, yeah. And they're like no, but we don't mean it because he's gay.
Speaker 2:We just mean it like an insult.
Speaker 1:You know, like, like they stumble, trying to explain it, but then they explain it like so well, you know, and it's like dude, I don't think I've ever used that word to an actual to homosexual and or or to or to insult someone yeah, of that right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just became like being gay is not an insult, right, you know what I mean Like that's not insult.
Speaker 1:You don't tell them that's not insulting, it's just, it's, it's just slang.
Speaker 2:Oh you know, and that's another reason why I hate that we fucked up the zoom thing because I wanted to talk to to don't want to be called African-American, like he's literally told me. He goes like dude, I, uh, I, uh, I, I. I mean, I've been to Africa, I'm not African, I'm American, right Cause I also one of the things that Calvo said the other day which, by the way, we'll mention Calvo a lot he's a buddy of ours, that uh, that uh, he's extremely lefty Right and he, he brought up the. What president was it that?
Speaker 2:But basically we shouldn't be. I shouldn't even be calling myself and I agree with it. I should not be calling myself Cuban American. I'm American, cuban of anything, right. I'm like, why am I Cuban American? Why am I putting the communist fucking shit country that I came from Right, that I had to, my family had to escape on a fucking shrimp boat, why am I putting that above? America, right, like I'm. I'm making a call right now All Cubans, stop calling yourself Cuban American. You're American, cuban, Right. And he mentions the same thing. He's like I'm black American, right Like. At the end of the day.
Speaker 1:So I will say American black.
Speaker 2:Right, well, right, he might've said that, he might have said that, but you know, I wanted to talk to him about, like, all the different words that can't be said and why they can't be said, but again we fucked up the Zoom one more time so we couldn't do that. But you know, it's like. You know, like again. Yes, I've been called a spic who gives a fuck.
Speaker 1:No, did you know that who?
Speaker 2:gives a fuck. What does speak mean? By the way, I have no idea.
Speaker 1:It's a bad word for I've been called an oe.
Speaker 2:Have you ever been called an oe before chico oe, I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 1:So a few years ago, that buddy of mine that I described from law school um, he was celebrating on facebook because the of the Washington Redskins logos had lost.
Speaker 2:I was in Cleveland the other day. I was in Cleveland last week. It was not the Cleveland Indians anymore.
Speaker 1:It's not.
Speaker 2:No, it's called the.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's the football team. He's talking about the baseball team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cleveland Indians.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not the Indians anymore.
Speaker 2:Man, unless I drove by the wrong stadium.
Speaker 1:I said cleveland guardians the guardians, wow so so so get this so a few years ago. Many of the washington redskins logos lost their copyright protections after a certain amount of time 20 years. I think it goes into the public domain, right, and he was celebrating that because now, like people, could use it and this and that, and and you know, and he, he was a firm believer in the need for the redskins to change their name right which finally dan snyder, the owner, he finally relented, and it was.
Speaker 1:He was very funny for for one year he was, like he named him, the washington football team he's like let see this can't piss anyone off, but now I read the other day that there's a group of Indians that are suing the Redskins Because they want to be called Indians again. They want it to be the Redskins and they want to bring the logo back, Because that logo was actually of a real-life chief that existed.
Speaker 1:And he was like every time they took the field they were honoring the guy, so that's why the answer is like again the pendulum well, but that's why the answer is do whatever you think and if you upset anybody, right?
Speaker 2:and, by the way, if there's any black people that are going to call me racist for what I've said today, uh, I'm cuban, which means I, I am literally half black, half spanish, all. So so fuck you, like, like, like, literally. You go to Cuba. Before you any attacks or any stupid comments. I mean, first of all, we welcome stupid comments, but if you're going to do any of them, just go on and Google Cuba, right? Cubans? What are Cubans? There was didn't I send it the other day the Cuban. There's a, there's an Instagram that has the makeup of all these Colombians and instead of Cubans, yeah, it's black, spanish and basically what. It is the reason why I'm brown. Guys, there's a black person of what two generations back, my grandfather, my mom's side, is mulatto. Oh, look at that guy, this guy. Can we get him on the podcast one day? You think, doubt it? Yeah, I doubt it too. Um, you know, and uh, and my dad's side is spanish. So, uh, yeah, before you, uh, you, uh, start being a fucking idiot um, again.
Speaker 1:And that's the thing, bro, that's it's so quick to attack people with that yeah you know it's like it's like it's just tired and again, I think people are getting sick of it. People are getting people are getting sick of the oversensitivity, bro. People are getting sick of the inability to say anything. You know, it's like it's it's and frankly, I think Trump's been a big, a big part of that. Trump has kind of you know he's, he's. He's a talk about a guy who doesn't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jesus Christ, yeah. So are you a bigger fan of him now that he got shot or that he has been convicted 75 times?
Speaker 1:No man, Well, no, I don't. I personally don't think that the with the exception of the New York case, which I thought was embarrassing to have brought those charges.
Speaker 2:You know I believe in the system. Maybe it's because I'm a lawyer um, it's not the.
Speaker 1:It's not a perfect system. There are, there are bad judges.
Speaker 2:They're like, just like the cops you don't think the democrats have just targeted him and and nobody else would have gotten targeted by, I think?
Speaker 1:that putting it, I I would agree that he has been targeted.
Speaker 2:I don't like saying things like the democrats okay because it makes it seem like it's a democrat, but it's a, it's a da.
Speaker 1:That's absolutely a fucking democrat and has that makes it seem too widespread, like I don't believe that there's a room full of democrats sitting around.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's that one. How they're going to know it? No, no, it's the culture of democrats that has created that one da, that fucking hates everything republican and and found the smallest little bullshit that, that valuation of his real estate and all that stuff everybody does. I mean, that's just. That's just the way developers function. That's just the way you know you get a piece of property and you fucking value it at what you know. It's called a pro forma.
Speaker 1:But what happens is that you get you, you alienate a lot of the population because there are people that again, there's a failure of accountability. People are like if people don't succeed, it's because they were held down, is the point you were making. So that's why, you know, you get these kids now that they're like eat the rich and these things, and it's like, oh, it's like it's like again, again, it's the rot. The rot is deep because the lack of education, coupled with the amplification of, of polarizing issues, coupled with people that are out there whose job it is to make americans hate other americans, you know, and it's just really, it's like a wildfire is now out of control. You know it was a controlled burn and now it's just gotten fucking out of control and no amount of water is going to turn it off.
Speaker 1:No, we're, uh, we're about an hour and a half in.
Speaker 2:So yeah, we're out of time. Um, ethan, can you go on a record here and saying we're not gonna fuck up the next zoomer? Careful ethan, he thought about it, I mean but isn't that what you're supposed to do last time?
Speaker 1:I did, but last time you had it on a different set with your computer or it was right here.
Speaker 2:Okay, can we set it up for all setups, or I don't know. Just can we? Yeah, you know. So you're going on record saying we're going to figure this fucking shit out. What do you think, richard? I lost it today, to be honest, but I'm rooting for him.
