Real Estate Talk Podcast with Jesus Castanon | RETalkPodcast
The Ultimate Real Estate Unveiling! Raw, Real & Revealing insights from industry experts
Dive headfirst into real estate's most electrifying depths with industry legends - Jesus Castanon, Josh Cadillac, and Richard L. Barbara. Why legends? With billion-dollar deals, groundbreaking innovations, and wisdom that's transformed the landscape, they've not just witnessed the game; they've been the game-changers. And if that's not enough, they're joined by a parade of industry-expert guests, spilling secrets and dishing advice that you won't hear anywhere else.
Expect RAW, REAL strategies that shook the market, REVEALING insights, and timely takes on today's market, coupled with actionable advice.
This isn't your typical real estate chitchat. This is RETalkPodcast - where the titans and top minds of the industry unite. Dive in, and prepare to have your real estate perceptions rocked!
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Episode 36: Shattering Perceptions; A Deep Dive into Gender Roles and Financial Misconceptions
Are you ready to challenge your own beliefs and confront societal norms? This episode is a daring journey into the heart of our conversations, bringing humor and disagreements, cultural introspection, and financial realities. Join us as we share heated debates that unfolded during the FHA loan process discussions, and our intriguing interactions with an astute attorney that underscored our differences in opinion. We reflect on how a simple chat turned into an enlightening experience that tested our ability to keep conversations civil, even amidst misunderstandings.
What if we told you that cultural differences and language barriers could impact your daily conversations? We challenge American attitudes towards learning languages and dig into the captivating nuances of Spanish language that often get lost in translation. We also question societal norms and the evolution of traditional gender roles, exploring their impact on the dynamics between men and women. From our exploration of masculinity and femininity, we dive into the world of fatherhood, societal expectations, and the changing face of gender roles within the family unit.
And if you've ever wondered about the realities behind mortgage defaults, this episode is for you. We unravel the misconceptions and harsh truths about foreclosure and banks' profit-making strategies. The discourse gets even more riveting as we discuss the effects of social media on public conversation, the art of defending your opinions, and the culture of trash talking in sports. Topping off this whirlwind of thought-provoking topics, we delve into the media's portrayal of humility and self-promotion, and the influence of Ayn Rand on our collective consciousness. So, get ready for an engaging conversation packed with differing opinions, humor, and some truly enlightening insights.
Real Estate Talk Podcast with Jesus Castanon - @retalkpodcast: The Ultimate Real Estate Unveiling! Raw, Real & Revealing insights from industry experts
Dive headfirst into real estate's most electrifying depths with industry legends - Jesus Castanon, Josh Cadillac, and Richard L. Barbara. Why legends? With billion-dollar deals, groundbreaking innovations, and wisdom that's transformed the landscape, they've not just witnessed the game; they've been the game-changers. And if that's not enough, they're joined by a parade of industry-expert guests, spilling secrets and dishing advice that you won't hear anywhere else.
Expect RAW, REAL strategies that shook the market, REVEALING insights, and timely takes on today's market, coupled with actionable advice.
This isn't your typical real estate chitchat. This is RETalkPodcast - where the titans and top minds of the industry unite. Dive in, and prepare to have your real estate perceptions rocked!
Meet The Legends:
Jesus Castanon: Visionary CEO of Real Estate EMPIRE Group, transforming property transactions into success stories.
Josh Cadillac: Renowned real estate coach, national speaker, and author; revolutionizing the art of 'closing for life.'
Richard L. Barbara, Esq.: Florida's legal luminary, pioneering change and setting the gold standard in real estate advocacy.
I go out of my way to hire women, right, and I think women are just smarter, more organized. I'm not saying that to clean it up. I really think women are just generally smarter. If they're Chinese, even more right, I mean, I want to throw a little bit of oh Ha, oh, that was, that was a joke, but technically, but technically, they got higher test scores. I mean, whatever it is, whatever it is. So I want to start off with a little, with a little what they call house cleaning here. So last, the thing is, the problem here is that we communicate I guess, for lack of a better term here through chat a lot throughout the week. So last week, richard, you know, I mentioned something was Biden's fault, right? Richard corrected me on it. Okay, you know, full Fledge caught me red-handed blaming something on Biden that wasn't.
Speaker 2:There's plenty to blame the guy for Just not that one. Just not that one.
Speaker 3:You chose the wrong one. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But the 2000 good ones. The point of the matter is. The point of the matter is and I can listen we're a new podcast and we're still trying to figure each other out. So I guess Richard and I I thought we had an understanding where it's like an unspoken rule, where we're gonna keep the podcast civil and argue, Because again to bring you guys into our world, we argue a lot through text. I mean, we were arguing 30 fucking minutes ago, it's impressive it's impressive.
Speaker 2:Fucking exhausting.
Speaker 1:So what threw me off guard is that I'm thinking all right, well, hey, Richard, listen, I purposely Listen. I graduated high school with a 1.5 GPA. I purposely surround myself by smarter people. I have no shame whatsoever in saying that I got kicked out of high school. Well yeah, but you're an attorney, you got through the school part. So last week we had a CPA, we got a Cadillac. That I'll say to anybody smartest guy I know. All right, Richard might disagree with that. He's the smartest. To Richard, he's the smartest guy he knows, right. So then we got Richard. So I have purposely put myself in a room where I'm not the smartest guy, no problem.
Speaker 1:So Richard catches me on this, All right, I thought, 100%, you know it was Biden's fault. It just doesn't make sense to me. There's way too many coincidences. And if it wasn't his fault, where it came from? I guess the genesis of it it was he could have stopped it and he didn't. All right, well, whatever, you were right, I was wrong. So what brings this to light is that. And the reason why I'm bringing it up right now is because then Richard, through the chat, he's like oh, you should have seen, I shit on you either. You said you shit on me or no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I said that you had to eat shit on air. You had to eat shit on air. Oh, I made him look stupid. Wait, it looks like I'm about to get a plate of shit and every Right every, all of that right.
Speaker 1:So then I'm like wait a second. In my understanding, our unspoken I guess rule, maybe we should speak it to make it a little more clear. I know we're trying to uplift ourselves. You know what I'm saying. You know, like I thought it was more Richard and us against the world, that we're gonna shit on everybody else. But Richard's understanding is no, let's continue to, let's break that rule and shit on Jesus, so no problem. So now, if that's the case oh. God.
Speaker 1:There we go Well listen, jesus has to defend himself because we've made it very clear hey, you know we're one of those, you know we you have to be able to take it, dish it out the whole situation. So why don't we talk a little bit about how many things you were wrong on the FHA thing?
Speaker 3:I'm gonna back up as a poofling Sure.
Speaker 1:So I'm trying to find it and I should have been more prepared for it. So you had a whole. Yeah, I said that the.
Speaker 2:It was a clip. I said that the government loans the money.
Speaker 1:when you said the reason why people do not like FHAs because it takes longer.
Speaker 2:I said sellers, sellers. The reason why sellers.
Speaker 1:Okay, so if you know it so well, go ahead and explain. And then if you could mention all the times that you fucked up that I While you were doing it. I'm letting it slide because this is what. I do Well. No, you should have brought it up. Well, you know, there's a way to bring it up. First of all, it's my opinion still?
Speaker 2:No, that's not an opinion. Hold on, let me finish. That's a fucking fact. Let me finish. It's my opinion still that sellers Sellers prefer to receive offers that are not for FHA loans, which is what I said that day. I said sellers don't like buyers that get FHA loans.
Speaker 1:And you start off with saying because.
Speaker 2:And then I said Right let me finish and I said because it takes longer ordinarily to get the loan approved.
Speaker 1:Wrong, okay, well, that's right, that's wrong.
Speaker 2:We spoke to one mortgage guy.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, no. Who's the guy that believes in lizard people? No, this is my world all day. And he said this is my world all day.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying the guy believes that there's a pizzeria filled with lizards.
Speaker 3:That's the guy who's on the chat. Why do I know exactly who you're talking about? Now listen. Well, because you're on the chat.
Speaker 1:Listen. First of all, it doesn't take longer than you said that the government funds lending the money.
Speaker 2:I said only the government can afford. Okay To loan 95 cents on the dollar.
Speaker 1:Right. Well, it's not 95 cents, it's 96.5.
Speaker 2:And so even better. That proves my point more Well, just saying.
Speaker 1:I'm keeping you on the phone. I'm keeping you on the phone If we're gonna. If we're gonna, or Okay go ahead.
Speaker 2:No, that's great. That helps my point.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then it's true. I misspoke when I said that the government loans the money Because they do what they guarantee the loan. Big difference? Not really, no, really, not really. The net effect is the same because what?
Speaker 2:happens is that it creates and here was the whole point. And correct me, if and, by the way, mr Lizard people agreed that ultimately that loan is for people with very little money or very little credit, all right, okay. And what we were talking about that day, the context that day, was how, in Miami, you have these people that are quick to call everyone a communist For things that have nothing to do with communism, and yet they're the first in line for things like that, like they love FHA loans because it results in people that they don't have to do shit. It's like and I use the example I'm like, hey, I want to buy something. It's a hundred bucks, I need you to loan me some money. And you're like, how much do I have to loan you? And you're like $96.50. It's like, fuck, I might as well buy it for you. You know what I mean. So what we were talking about was people that make light of others and they say, oh, you're a communist, isn't that? Don't ever get an FHA loan, bro, go get yourself a convention.
Speaker 3:We were talking about how relevant in this particular matter.
Speaker 2:I want to make sure that you understand that if we want to play the fucking game.
Speaker 1:Then let's play the game.
Speaker 2:I personally, I love it.
Speaker 1:No, I don't love it. Listen what I personally rather do. I think we will digress so fucking far that we will spend the entire damn podcast arguing.
Speaker 2:So that's why I'm trying to.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, but yes, People might like that.
Speaker 3:I'm just dropping the chat. If you prefer argument For a little bit.
Speaker 1:So my humble opinion is that you know, listen, man, we argue the rest of the time. We have 18 years.
Speaker 2:Let's not argue here, just this one.
Speaker 1:Okay, just this one, and then you know what so hard though.
Speaker 2:Well, I know, I guess.
Speaker 1:But what I want is that. So again my If you notice, listen, bro, I tell these guys, hey, on the Instagram I'm like, hey, listen, let's make. Hey put these guys promote, like there's more of you guys than there is a me on the fucking Instagram.
Speaker 2:I know, but this podcast has your name on it.
Speaker 3:Exactly my point, and still you guys, where do we have to kill to get it?
Speaker 1:really the graphic designer.
Speaker 2:The, the, the.
Speaker 1:So you know. So the point is, you know, we're promoting.
Speaker 2:I just have one question, though, about the technical setup today. Why don't? Why are? Where are the fancy screens where we see each other? There we go.
Speaker 1:Big.
Speaker 2:TVs, outside. Oh, it was outside yeah.
Speaker 1:I taught a class today, so it was outside. I didn't even think about it. Damn, I forgot it makes a difference. I actually rather not look at myself there. I mean, it's pretty alarming, the shit on your face and the hair.
Speaker 2:That's why I wanted to. What do you call entradas? What do you call entradas? Again, entrances?
Speaker 1:No, no, that's the literal. That's a literal translation, no what's this called in like the?
Speaker 3:Hairline no like receding hairline, Receeding hairline.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so that shit freaks me out, because when you're oh there, which by?
Speaker 2:the way, that's an interesting topic. As a complete aside. Words in Spanish for which there is no direct English translation A bunch. A bunch yeah there was one that was driving me crazy, but I think I finally found it.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:Estrenar. Estrenar right Is, though. In Spanish that means use for the first time, yeah, so I think it's debut Right. You debut your shoes, yeah this is just a sounds wrong, yeah. In Spanish. You're like oh, I'm training that I'm training.
Speaker 1:There's a bunch of them. There's a ton of and, by the way, there's a ton of words that I rather use. Spanish got it figured out more than English. I'll be like oh, everybody speak and I use the word.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The saga de la Valle is one that I use all the time.
Speaker 2:There's not a really the French have a phrase for that. It says it's called le mon juste, which means the right word, really, yeah, yeah, look at that, yeah Well the.
Speaker 3:French have that, the French word, for forever.
Speaker 1:While we're talking about this, we're making everybody uncomfortable here. Let's try to like why the fuck, having you learn Spanish, can you at least admit it? Because you just don't feel like it, and obviously you can do it. He's like is this American?
Speaker 2:Right, right.
Speaker 1:Right, no, listen, listen. That's what I'm getting at. I hope my boy he's like, why don't? Y'all motherfucking.
Speaker 3:You don't need to learn some English.
Speaker 1:That's exactly my point and that's what I'm trying to pull out of this guy and listen, kind of like we've been friends for a really long time. I consider you one of my best friends. Can we admit that you, just because you know what it's fucking America you?
Speaker 3:know what? There's. No, I promise you I will answer the question. Okay, your initial assessment is when I was a younger guy. Absolutely, I was just like a big middle finger to everybody.
Speaker 2:Why the hell should I? I have to. In fact, don't even talk to me in Spanish, motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:Well, but that all makes sense until you know kind of like enough, and you know that I've never seen him with a white girl, every single time he has an Hispanic girl, Let me tell you he might be brilliant, because it reduces the ability to communicate.
Speaker 2:There's a component of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah of course it's brilliant.
Speaker 1:I've been around him enough to know that I mean and there, when I'm talking about they're not white, I'm talking about they're like just got off of whatever fucking boat it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like they barely speak English, that will definitely get the attention of some of the some of our listeners. They got off a boat. Oh yeah, by the way, guys, are they covered in sea spray?
Speaker 1:Listen by the way, for you guys that don't know, I literally came to this country on a shrimp boat.
Speaker 3:So, like literally it was called yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was? It was a damn shrimp boat, so kind of like, just is it? Is it the you know what it's America thing? I didn't get it. Listen, man, we're buddies. I mean, you can just tell me that.
Speaker 3:I was particularly irritated as a young guy, you know, as if I're working for my dad on his nine. Pretty much everybody that worked for us spoke largely and almost exclusively Spanish, and it was kind of like you should learn, and I'm like I don't want to, right, because I really don't like looking stupid in front of people and there's a whole process where you're going to say it wrong and I've noticed this too, like in Florida.
Speaker 1:From we got to do accents and stuff, if you're a.
Speaker 3:Spanish speaker and you you speak English and it's not good. And I'm American person. I could be like you, idiot. When you speak Spanish in front of Spanish people, wrong right, they are the first to laugh at you. You have moron, that's not how you say it. I'm like, I don't want to be the moron.
Speaker 2:You know what's funny is, in my office, though, I have staff. You know that like they speak English with a, with an accent.
Speaker 1:English with an accent.
Speaker 2:Oh, man, and I just go to town all day.
Speaker 1:Really yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Of course they can take it, and you know, in our offices you know you have to be able to take it.
Speaker 1:You have to be able to take it.
Speaker 2:But man, it's so funny like this. This one of my staff and she's, she's such a good sport. But, somebody calls you a day from vision mortgage, vision mortgage, and she's like you know she gets it. And she's you know we don't use, like the, the technical intercom, we use the Cuban intercom yelling across the office and she's like she's like Fulanita it's vision mortgage.
Speaker 1:By the way, fulanita, that's another one you got to translate. How do you say Fulanita?
Speaker 2:I mean it's like so and so, so, and so is like saying so and so, so that's another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I Richard is one of so.
Speaker 1:and another thing here in Miami. And look, and I get it. And I'm not trying, I am trying to put you in a comfortable situation, but I'm also. I'm also like saying like, look, man, I get it. Like you know, I tell people when the people come in, come to me here in my office, and again, Richard makes fun of it all the time. Most of these people don't speak English.
Speaker 1:I mean, they don't have to Now in Miami, yeah in Miami you could live 30, 40 years and never have to speak English. So they don't. You might not even run into somebody.
Speaker 3:You literally might not run into somebody. So I don't, I don't know, and this, this may be my white bread situation here, but like what, what, what? Hi? Yeah, in America I very seldom get a phone call from someone that doesn't have an accent. Now I really don't even notice it anymore.
Speaker 2:But you know, like the Even the good English speakers like the Miami accent. Yeah no, there's always that accent.
Speaker 1:But I heard I have an accent. People tell me all the time when I go up north I have an accent, we do, we do, we do, yeah, yeah, we'll see. I try to get a detail. I don't know, I don't know, I know, right, I have?
Speaker 3:I have a bit of one too, and if I get excited, the New York accent starts to work its way back.
Speaker 1:I've never heard. I've never heard. I can hear it, I can hear it, you can hear it. You're really yeah.
Speaker 3:It's. It's a thing, by the way, to be clear. It's been three Latin women. There's just three of them. I didn't date Latin women for the first part of my life because I'll be honest, I didn't like them. No, I was scared, oh right. You know, like here's the thing, like I'm a guy that likes peace and I had always heard the reputation is like shoes flying and like and I'm like I just don't kind of the opposite.
Speaker 1:You know what I would after the first one.
Speaker 2:I just why girls are the problem.
Speaker 3:Yes, I would. I'm not going to necessarily disagree with what you're just saying it was a way.
Speaker 2:Hey, we're, we're waiting into dangerous what I said. Why, Well?
Speaker 1:you know why girls are are less. Are are proud to be less domesticated. Is that is that? Is that, is that what you enjoy about the Hispanic girls? The domestic?
Speaker 3:I find that there's there's less of an expectation of competition at home.
Speaker 2:So, like I felt, like in my you're- going to be the man I think the word you're looking for is the submissiveness. I don't think domestication is like both I don't know that it's not.
Speaker 1:I think about it.
Speaker 3:Like it. There's more of a willingness to like you're better at this and I'm better at this, and that's just.
Speaker 1:I'm the man, you're the woman.
Speaker 2:I suppose they're like well and we're, you know, typically Latin women. They're, they're threshold, they're, they're a pain, tolerance, for you know what, what is today very popular, like the misogynistic comments and you know the, everyone having their place, the tolerance is much greater, I think, among Latin women like they expect.
Speaker 1:Well, you get certain countries that the women, like Columbia in particular I say it all the time, I mean the Colombian women are bread To be the woman. They are, like they are. You know, I've had like long-term Colombian girlfriends, I'm like none of them want to be American football players none yeah right.
Speaker 3:I saw that. No competition Right right.
Speaker 1:But the ones that I've had. You know, as a matter of fact, when I met my wife right now she knows I thought she was Colombian. That's the only reason I pulled up through her, because I mean Colombians. Colombian women to me are like just, they're just Columbia. You know, there's just something. It's a step above. This is the cream of the crop.
Speaker 3:It's just the step above the way they speak. All right it is the, the.
Speaker 1:The Colombian medellin accent is the equivalent to a French accent. For a European, it is just sexy, it is, it is, it's singing, it's, it's, it's, it's amazing. And, and those women in particular, and they're not embarrassed to say it, so you don't even have to be politically correct. They are bred to make the man happy. I mean, dude, I had had one that cut my meat. I would sit when I went to the parties at their house.
Speaker 3:Listen, I know what you're talking about. Right, I get it. I was sitting there one day. I was being fed Working, but I don't have time to eat. It's the food is just being put in my mouth.
Speaker 2:We should rename this podcast. We just don't give a.
Speaker 1:Next week, listen, and my wife my wife now is is is Venezuelan and not far from that at all, right, not, not. I mean same thing raised like you know the whole situation, right, but, but Colombians are just the Michael Jordan's of this shit, right? So when I would, I went to the. I went to a party. I remember my girlfriend at the time getting reprimanded Because she wasn't on my shit as much. I mean, she wasn't like hovering over me, feeding me and like putting the. It was just, it was. It's a culture of that and I think we've lost that in America. I don't think it's ever coming back, right, I mean, it's just, it's just a thing. I don't think it was ever quite as as pronounced. Look at the 50s movies.
Speaker 2:I've seen that fate, that meme that goes around all the time with the the original battleship Box cover. Oh my god, it's amazing, like the game battleship. Original the original iteration of the game would come in this in the box, just like it does today. Right, but the image on the box was of a father and son, mm-hmm, playing battleship at the dinner table, and then in the background was the wife and the Presumably the sister, the daughter, and they were washing the dishes, like looking back, smiling. Yeah, look at the men playing.
Speaker 2:Men's up while we're doing women's women doing women's stuff and it's like you know, obviously they circulate that now, as you know, very tongue-in-cheek joke.
Speaker 1:But but so so I'm very careful how I raised my daughter too, because, so you know, I don't want her but like to be. I don't think she will be the extreme which would I would I find amazing, which is like the Colombian style, let's call it right but I also do want her to be a woman you know what I'm saying, and I do want her to understand and and play a role in just that phrase eology be a woman. Well, I think, I think what you mean, I want you to.
Speaker 2:I want you, you wanted to be more traditional. Okay, that's a better way than to say that to be.
Speaker 1:But even traditional would be insulting, because what do you mean by traditional? Oh, it's a traditionally the woman's supposed to be I mean, traditionally we were in a fucking cave and when they wanted to do something, you grab him by the hair, I pull him outside and do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2:That if you're not like that, you're not a woman. I think it's problem. That was the implication.
Speaker 3:I think there's actually a bigger issue here when it comes to to females in America, which is that they they bought into this line that they have to compete with men on every single thing, and it's one up with them being very discontent and what it's what the real result has been, as men in general have pulled back from culture in a very meaningful way. I mean, men have really disengaged, and I find this more in the younger the group of women that I'm around, the more this is the case that men are like oh, you want to compete on everything. You can do it better, go ahead, like go ahead. And women are doing so much now, they have so much in their plate, and the thing with women is they're tough, they are, so I mean they'll do it.
Speaker 1:I got it, but listen man so.
Speaker 3:I had a guy. I had a guy.
Speaker 1:I was at Parrot Jungle. Remember that Parrot Jungle story when I beat the fuck out of the guy in Parrot Jungle? So um, so we're in a parking lot at Parrot Jungle. So if you guys that don't know, parrot Jungle is like a amusement park here where they got animals and shit right.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's pretty much what it called birds fucking goats right.
Speaker 1:So so this guy, my wife, we were with my, my son now he was, but he was a baby and my wife hit the door. We really didn't notice. It's not one of those cases oh shit, let's get in the car before anybody sees it. No, it was just, she didn't even notice.
Speaker 2:So this guy, the other guys car. Yeah, we're putting the kid in the car.
Speaker 1:Whatever we, we didn't notice that or anything. But so this guy approaches the car through my window right and and starts fucking screaming. Guy was from New York. We've been shooting on New York people for a bit, so let's, let's continue that.
Speaker 1:So he's making a full it full of tattoos. You know, tough guy. Hey, I'm from fucking New York and that's not the way we roll. You hit my fucking car and this and that I'm like dude, listen bro, just you know, leave it. So my point is is it her role to get out of the car? So this guy all of a sudden gets in front of the car and doesn't let us leave the parking Garage, so he's banging on the hood door, right? So is it? Whose job is to? Whose job is it to protect the family at that point?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, it's hers who is best. Who is best what man?
Speaker 1:of course not. Well then, what? So then, of course, so then. So where does a burglar comes into the house? Who go, who gets the batter, the gun and goes downstairs. The read, the read.
Speaker 1:Why am I also what? Why am I expecting to go beat the shit out of the New York? And, guy, why am I? No, no, I want to stay in the car. No, so I find it absolutely fucking ridiculous that there listen, a man's a man and a woman's a woman. There's certain things and I get the equal and I'm okay with the equal. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna go further. I'm gonna tell you that women are smarter, right, I go out of my way to hire women, right, and I think women are just smarter, more organized I, since I'm not saying that to clean it up I, I really think women are just generally smarter. If they're Chinese, even more right. I mean, I want to throw a little bit. Oh, that was, that was a joke, but. But technically, but technically, they got higher test scores. I mean, whatever it is, what it is, but um, but you know what the point is. I'm I'm expected to defend the family, I'm expected to do certain things, right. We, when we stop at a gas station.
Speaker 2:I'm the one getting out and putting that, just want to get home to a hot plate.
Speaker 1:Well, okay. So listen, bro, and I and I know your wife very well, she's not the masculine on the man type, so don't fucking pretend.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I got a great, I got.
Speaker 1:It's funny, you say that like you run the show no.
Speaker 2:I got a. Great I got a great story for you on that. So so, of course, my old man who we've discussed. He ran the show, for sure was the ultimate savage. Okay, to the point of an extreme to the point of no, no, you got to go. Savage I was. I mean it was borderline, I mean it was abusive you know, and as I got a little older, like I Realized like what, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2:it was too much but but like the things that the guy would do and say we're like, you know, like and it won't translate well in English but like, for example, at my house, dinner every night was like a production. But when I tell your production, I mean you had my father's plate had to be warmed. Okay, like the plate itself would go face down on the stovetop and it would come to the table warm, because in his view, only a moron puts warm food on a cold plate. Okay, okay. So like the plates had to be warm and my mom would put it down.
Speaker 2:He's not off there, I mean listen, making a lot of sense so far and the plate would get put down and he'd put his hand on it, you know like he'd touch it to make sure it was warm. Okay, and he had like these me right. He had, he had he had these lessons, okay, like these concepts, and so he would say salt. Salt is something you can always add, but you can never take it away. So it was you know over salt, the fucking food yeah he's making so far.
Speaker 2:And it is, it is. You know, my mom would occasionally, I guess, put too much salt on the food. Okay, and so one one time we're having pork chops, which was like one of four items wait at that fucking house, cuban style pork chops and you know they, they bring the four to the table. We always had like a good help in the house. You know we, there was always a lady that would help my mom and shit.
Speaker 1:How would you get?
Speaker 2:Oh, my Imagine. So they bring the pork chops and my old man this, and he cuts into the pork chop and he takes a bite and he's like he, you know, throws the fork down and he's like, fucking, pork chop is too salty, you know. And so his anger would build and this would happen a lot. That like it would be a disaster, and then they'd have to start over. He would send the food back like in a restaurant, right, okay, like the food's going back.
Speaker 1:I have to get cooked again.
Speaker 2:Make it again, right, Okay, like fucking unreal. And so Go make it again okay and so the older I got, the less tolerant I was for these shows and I would I would start to, like you know, kind of try to defend my old lady and she which never ended well for.
Speaker 2:But this one time, you know. So like I try the pork chop and I'm like it's not that bad, and he's like the fuck, it's not. This is all in Spanish, you know, the fuck, it's not, it's horrific. And then he'd like takes another bite and he's like it's scraping my throat on the way down, you know, from the salt. And then like my old lady, finally, is like she takes a bite and she's like all demure and shit, the way she would cut. You know, she was taught in the finest school she take a little bite. She's like I Arnold, it's not that salty. And he would say he said something like of course not, because the vein that goes to your taste buds is connected to your asshole. Okay, and so in Spanish this sounds much smoother. And this gets back to the my wife thing. Early on I'd go to my then girlfriend's house and I would tell these stories by the way.
Speaker 2:Her parents are very traditional to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah okay, so I would tell these stories to my future in-laws, the gypsies and yeah, and my mother. My mother-in-law was mortified that I was gonna be like my dad. Okay, and she was like she didn't like I had experienced it. She didn't like me at the be.
Speaker 1:I said she had experienced him a little bit. Yeah, so how did you know?
Speaker 2:me telling the story. Oh, like I would get there and tell the story, thinking it was very funny.
Speaker 1:I thought this ought to be very funny and I remember that like looking back now and she would say it.
Speaker 2:She would tell my my girlfriend after. She would be like you better put your fucking place. Like you better make sure that you don't get run over like this and this and that and so what? What's funny is that you know you're right. My house is is, I think, far more traditional than the typical like of how it's supposed to be today, I guess, or you know how it's supposed to be air quotes, but right, so we have daughters.
Speaker 1:What's wrong with yeah?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no these up.
Speaker 1:You know your wife is a phenomenal wife, phenomenal super. I definitely like it, like no right and, and just you know, not too extreme in any way easy to do no, nothing but at the same time, but but here's.
Speaker 2:Here's what I think is the is the right answer, and we're talking about this at the gym the other day is that I'm also far better, far more Domesticated than my father was or than even her father is like. For example, if we're at an event, at a at my house we're barbecuing on a Sunday, it's not my father-in-law like doesn't serve himself, like my mother-in-law has to serve my father-in-law like the food like. If not, he's not eating.
Speaker 3:Like he'll sit there, he's big.
Speaker 2:I'm fucking hungry and and like she's got to get somebody else yeah and she's got to get up and do the plate. Like, listen, I serve myself. Like. Similarly, like like he never goes to the supermarket. My father never set foot into a Windixia republics until in advanced age. Okay, that was her job.
Speaker 1:Listen, I shop okay, so like change diapers and you like to cook?
Speaker 2:Change diapers is a classic. My dad had four sons.
Speaker 1:I never change diapers. Well, that's a phenomenal father listen?
Speaker 2:my, I don't think it makes up. Makes one a better father or not?
Speaker 1:Well, it's just, I got my, my balls busted by people like Just what I'm saying is not one, not one diaper, not one.
Speaker 2:Some changes in the division of labor? Yeah, okay, so so, for example, four sons my dad had and his, you know, a funny story is that with four sons he only changed one diaper, and it was no a diaper of mine a day that I was left with him for like a little while. Shit emergency couldn't believe it. He called my grandmother. He was like this kid shit. I think I got to get rid of the whole fucking kid.
Speaker 2:And they had to, like, walk him through it, you know. So those are the things that are different. I mean, look, I woke up at night. I changed plenty of diapers.
Speaker 1:Okay, but back to the fucking question that I must. I think you're avoiding what's wrong with our daughters being raised that way. There's nothing wrong with it, right? So also do we have friends that have less what the? What's the word? Not domesticated? What was the other word? You?
Speaker 2:use.
Speaker 1:Don't we have missiveness and this is a total rhetorical question, but you know the we do. We have friends that have way less Traditional yeah wives, and we make fun of them for being pussies. Yeah, yeah, like right, they run the show. When you go in there, you're almost you have to talk to her to right, right to run, maybe, just, maybe just. You know what I'm saying, and, and, and.
Speaker 1:I just want to see what they strap it on well, well, yeah, well, yeah, and then and then, and have you, have you also? Have you also had a situation in business? And this is let's all bring it back to business, right, that? You know that when you talk to that gentleman, okay, business wise, you know he can't make the decision right there because he has to go check with his wife. Yeah, it's a disaster, that's a fucking disaster. Yeah, right, so that's what I'm saying. So, like there's, there's certain things that like, alright, you know, like, yeah, man's a man and a woman's a woman, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I think, and I'm gonna go on the record saying that anything I Guess to reverse that, I think it's, it goes against society. I mean it just, it just does, and and I think it'll get to a point where Women are men, I mean, do well, will we get to that extreme.
Speaker 2:I mean, listen, do we even know anymore? I mean, I'm not. I'm not being sarcastic, it's like you can be. It's like the comedian, didn't it? Did you send it to me or did I send it to you the day? The comedian that was like you know. I hear a lot of people complaining, man, I wish I remembered the guy's name so we'd give him credit, but he was like you know. I hear a lot of people complaining now that in the United States we're losing our freedoms and this and that. But I just want you guys to know it's the opposite. We are so fucking free here.
Speaker 1:Oh, I sent you that. I sent you that I can wake up tomorrow and right now I can change my mind.
Speaker 2:I can say I'm a woman and none of you people are gonna say shit. He was talking to the crowd. People are losing it. So I mean look.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, I think the question that I would ask is are the people that are different from that happier because they are? And the thing that I've seen in my dating life and previous marriage, whatever was that there was like this discontent that existed. If they didn't establish that, your divorce was a white girl.
Speaker 3:Yes, if they didn't establish they were somehow like my superior. And you know, like you know, I'm not too stupid, right? I mean like I can take so much and at some point you poke the bear far enough and you know I'm gonna take and I'm gonna explain to you and again.
Speaker 1:But you're also a good husband, Dude you work, your ass off dude I know you go out of your way to be a good husband.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like you, thrive on.
Speaker 3:I prioritize. Prioritize your role as a husband. But here's the thing. This is your point, though, and I'm getting there. Being with a woman that's the way that you've described it makes it so much easier for me to want to do that. Like I make it a priority. I buy flowers for my girl every month on the day that we met. Every month, I buy it, and I have a reminder to do it. Why Do you do that?
Speaker 2:Absolutely not, not for anything but fucking it.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of fucking flowers, bro.
Speaker 3:One more thing to worry about God damn. It's a little thing. It costs 15, 20 bucks.
Speaker 1:So the first Hispanic girl that you were with that was cutting your meat and you were like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was the love of my life there.
Speaker 1:That was the one she changed. You're not supposed to say that, because you're supposed to say the love of your life is the one right now Revamped the way I. What nationality are we talking about there? Venezuela?
Speaker 3:She was. Her parents were both from Colombia, but she's been as well, so she was a Colombian bread right yeah, colombian parents from Venezuela.
Speaker 1:Right right, the Colombian bloodline.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so she's a part of Colombia by now. I love your repeated use of the word bread and breeding as if they're a form of animal. I find it, I find it to be Appalling. I mean, I just can't believe my fucking ears.
Speaker 1:I would actually it's funny because my wife's not tall at all but whenever I would see a tall girl like, my thing was like I gotta get a really tall girl, so I want my kids to be tall. You know what I mean. Like it was like a thing I would always engage in conversation with the girls. Imagine if we had, if we bred Like when a tall girl would be like man. Our kids would be like six, four, six, five, see you know what's hilarious?
Speaker 3:I talked to people and I was just doing it today about lines that some people could get away with and other people get like forget, slap, like shot. That's when most people can't land the king. What if we bred Like I don't think I could ever land that line? You know who?
Speaker 1:the king and our friends. Who's the king of getting away with telling people fuck up, shit, that you're like? I cannot believe. You said that and they walk out of there loving him no idea. Capo.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Bro he'll shit.
Speaker 1:Somebody will walk into a room. He'll call him fat ugly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing, that's an art bro, that comes from his dad too. That's like a long line, like you'll just yell, you're a fucking. And what I realized after figuring him out? I'm like man, spending enough years with him. I'm like, what is it Like? I was fascinated by it. It's because he smiled the whole time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:You, fat piece of shit. Motherfucker, as long as you're smiling, you could call somebody anything and you get like coming at you, fat piece of shit and you know it's like absolutely. As long as you're, so that proves that body language is actually way more important than the actual words coming out of your mouth.
Speaker 3:Look, I want you to you tell me all the time.
Speaker 2:It's not what you I'm like. All I said is X. It's not what you said, it's how you said it.
Speaker 1:I know, I know. I think I know you well enough to know what you really meant. That's what I really say all the time.
Speaker 3:I got one. This is this guy that I used to know and his line and this thing, this guy with women, was amazing. His line that he would walk up with was to a group of women. Tell me the truth, ladies. One finger or two, holy foe.
Speaker 1:That was his open Jesus, and I'm like can we get this guy in the podcast?
Speaker 2:You mean you used to know you could've rested for that. Nowadays you would get flat out In California, you get like in prison for that I would watch.
Speaker 3:And I mean, the response was overwhelmingly Now would we do?
Speaker 1:it like this, like this, because that means the difference he had more. He had more.
Speaker 3:I mean like I felt bad. I felt bad even saying that to the podcast.
Speaker 1:I would never. And I got listen. I'm pretty hardcore and that's a hardcore one. And that's you know like, and I say that he literally can't get away with that now. I'm sure that was years ago.
Speaker 3:It was six, seven years ago. It's not like yeah. It's not like yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna separating the whole world into pre-pandemic and post-pandemic. I think everything changed. Yeah, literally.
Speaker 2:I like it PC and you can put it can be like you know, pc and AC, pre-covid and after COVID, everything changed.
Speaker 1:And then yeah, Everything, everything everything. The way we shop, the way we, what we can and cannot say, the way we work Everything. The way we work everything is fucking racist.
Speaker 3:You know what you're saying. I think you're gonna tripping that. It's either homophobic or racist. You can't say shit.
Speaker 2:I got a buddy of mine. He's very.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 1:I know what you're gonna say. That's a good one. He is very funny and it is so real and it's a great line.
Speaker 2:Can we say that line or is it like no? I think you could say it. I mean, let's put it this way it won't even be, not even close to the worst thing we've said to the other show. So yeah, I'm having lunch with a guy and we're talking and he's complaining about like the changes in the world, you know, and how they are now, and he's like, bro, I'm telling you bro, he's got this deep Cuban English.
Speaker 2:And he's like I'm telling you, bro, attorney right, yeah, I'm telling you right now, bro, pretty soon, if you won't at least consider sucking a dick, you're a racist.
Speaker 1:That is an absolute genius genius line. If you don't at least consider sucking a dick, you're a racist. It just makes sense, but no sense at the same time. It's genius, it's fucking genius. Oh man, would he come on the podcast, by the way? I think he would.
Speaker 2:He's incredibly funny bro. Yeah, that's a fun guy he had another good one when they were investigating steroids and baseball. He was outraged by the fact that the government was spending money.
Speaker 3:You know, there was like there was literally a congressional investigation into like baseball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had nothing to worry about that.
Speaker 2:And he's like yeah right, we were fucking around with that and he was like another lunch we were at and he was like I can't believe it, bro, these things. If it was me, I was president, I would walk into that room and be like everybody stop what you're doing.
Speaker 1:We're done with this. It's a complete and absolute waste of time.
Speaker 2:Again, everything was a big point.
Speaker 1:What president was that? Obama? For sure, yeah, obama was very he was, it was smooth sailing, at least at the beginning the first four years.
Speaker 2:The second four years, things started to go well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he got way too, way too pro, you know.
Speaker 3:I think your initial point actually, because I've been rolling it around as we talk about.
Speaker 1:Why you pick.
Speaker 3:Hispanic women. No, no, we can go back to that if you want. I'm happy to defend myself.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what our initial point was, so I thought it was that good.
Speaker 3:I think it was to put me on the spot. Mission accomplished.
Speaker 2:Right, why you don't learn Spanish? That was terrible.
Speaker 3:So the Peef, covid, and after COVID, I think I'm gonna trail it back to one of my favorite things to pick on and point to is you had a bunch of people at home stuck alone doing nothing but looking at social media, and if there's one thing social media will do, it'll make you super aware of all the stuff you didn't know that was racist, that you should have been offended about, that you totally missed Dude social media will rot your fucking brain. That's what it does. It is a disease, man.
Speaker 2:It's like a word, it's like a putting candy in your teeth for like 10 years straight without brushing them.
Speaker 3:It's like watch I-.
Speaker 2:Like you wanna talk about decay of the brain, bro Of the mind. It's unbelievable man.
Speaker 3:Look, I mean even watching the news. I don't watch the news, I actually get my news from an app and I have it push the headlines to me to decide whether or not I even wanna read it. How much brain cancer am I willing to take in? Yeah, in the process of getting this like and where do you even get your news from? And in fact.
Speaker 2:let's talk about that. Let's bring that back now to Mr Peter Schiff.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. So that was a tweet, a tweet, right, was it?
Speaker 2:Or an ex-bran? No, but I'm saying, was it a Twitter thing? Yes, yes, yes, it was an ex. It was an ex post and it said Let me read it yeah, so we're gonna get a little into real estate here.
Speaker 3:The guy says On the real estate podcast he says and I don't know who it's very controversial.
Speaker 2:I don't know who this person is, by the way, but he says what's his name? Peter Schiff, peter Schiff, at Peter Schiff, peter Schiff, you're a moron. He says banks are in far worse financial shape now on their residential mortgage books than they were in 2008. False statement number one Super false, super false.
Speaker 1:Then he says- Wait, but hold on. Why is it false? I mean the amount of equity, yeah too.
Speaker 3:I mean it's just-.
Speaker 2:Everything was upside down back then. There's just so much more cash in the market. I mean come on. Come on, because they were making loans at 125%. Ltv. Come on, peter, you were buying a house. You could do better than that. You were walking away with a check.
Speaker 3:The banks have so much collateral right now backing up their loans they wish. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:So he says. Then it goes on to say, he says back then banks only lost money on the small percent of borrowers who defaulted on their mortgages, the small percent.
Speaker 1:Super wrong too. Okay, also wrong 40%. I think it was foreclosure.
Speaker 2:Then he says now banks are losing money on every borrower who pays their mortgage on time.
Speaker 1:That might be right but still, it doesn't make all the other stuff right, it's not every borrower who pays their money. Anytime you see words like this and At 3%, I know, but okay, but not everybody, Every, all, Most. Can we change it for most? I don't know. I don't know the answer. 3%, if you're lending it, if you're lending it. So then he says why not? Kind of like wait, hold on.
Speaker 3:Why not? Because when did they make that loan? When they borrowed the money to make that loan, the Federal Reserve was lending the money at zero, so the-.
Speaker 2:The spread is still three.
Speaker 3:The spread is still spread right. The spread hasn't changed. It's just how much they're getting the money for. So they're still making the same spread on a 9% loan and the 2.5% loan because they borrowed the money for the same thing. The 9% money has probably cost them 7%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's no way. Listen, the banks and bankers are smart enough that they're not gonna be like oh yeah, I'm gonna borrow at zero, I'm gonna lend it to the consumer at 3%, and then listen, if the rates go up, if the prime rate goes up to whatever the number is, and it's higher than three, all of a sudden we're upside down. That's just not the way it works, bro. But then he adds and here's where he gets, even here's where he goes way over the top. He says defaults are not the issue anymore, it's the mortgages themselves that are the problem. Banks would actually be better off with more defaults. Then they could tear up the Okay, but you gotta stop.
Speaker 1:you're skipping points, Okay, so let's talk about that one. They'll be better off with more defaults. In what world does that make sense? Oh my God.
Speaker 2:No well, it only makes sense if you go to his next sentence, which is then they could tear up the 3% mortgages and resell the houses at higher prices with 8% mortgages. Okay, All right. Where do we start? Oh my God, All right here we go. So, first of all and this is, by the way, this is not Killbites going on.
Speaker 2:And it's not just Mr Schiff, okay, it's many people. People are under the impression, especially and I've encountered it here in Miami where it's like in Spanish they'll tell you no porque me quitan la casa. Which is translation They'll take my house away Take my house away. Okay, and the reality of the matter is the following, at least in Florida. Okay, banks do not have the right to take your house when you don't pay the mortgage. Okay, the foreclosure gives the bank the right to cause the sale of the collateral.
Speaker 2:Okay so to auction. So what happens is when you stop paying your mortgage and the bank sues you in foreclosure, the objective of that lawsuit is to Prevail right to get a judgment that says, hey, the bank is owed X the outstanding principal, the accrued Note rate interest right so whatever then the accrued and unpaid default interest.
Speaker 2:Right, so all notes say something like your rate is 5% if you go into default, it's the highest rate allowable by law, or something like that. Sophisticated commercial borrowers will try to negotiate for something higher but lesser than the default rate. Okay, so there's the note rate, there's the default rate, then there's the penalties, late fees that accrue, and then there's the attorneys fees that the banks are going to be entitled to recover. So when the bank sues you in foreclosure, these numbers continue to add up. By the way, every day, daily interest accrues and this and that.
Speaker 2:And when they get to the end, when they Get to the judgment of foreclosure, it's a little piece of paper that the judge signs. It says the bank is owed $565,000 and that's made up of Principle of 300, you know, unpaid interest at the note rate of 65,000, unpaid interest at the default rate of 82,000, you know whatever the numbers, and it adds up to this the total number on the judgment. Then that same piece of paper Sets a sale date, a date on which the asset is going to be auctioned. Okay now, now what happens is that? Oh, I know, you know. So what happens? Is that in the downturn in 2008?
Speaker 2:Which goes back to, like the the fully erroneous nature of mr Shift's Tweets, or eggs or whatever you call it is that the problem was that the collateral, the houses had lost so much value that they were actually worth less than what short sales right, everything was a short sale and wait. But let's get to how. It became a short sale so. So the properties were worth less than what the banks were owed.
Speaker 1:So when you go to all of them, by the way, oh, so I know, I know you hate the word all, but I mean, can we call it most, yeah, the majority so when you would go to auction.
Speaker 2:So now let's talk about it. You're a bank, you have a judgment of foreclosure and you have an auction. The auction is tomorrow. You go on to the computer right to this, the auction system, and you have to set what's called the reserve. Yeah, okay, and the bank sets the reserve, and the reserve is the number that the bank will take from a bidder. Ordinarily, the banks reserve is the amount that they're owed on the judgment. So in our example of five hundred and sixty four thousand dollars, the reserve is going to be five hundred and sixty four thousand dollars. Right back then, the house itself was only worth $400,000 so what?
Speaker 2:would happen is that no one would come and bid the reserve. And so when no one bids at the reserve, what happens? The property does not sell at auction, and for one hundred dollars this is how it is in Florida, okay, or how it was back then for one hundred dollars the bank becomes the high bidder. And once the bank becomes the high bidder, the property then transfers ownership of the property then there's a certain amount of time that the borrower has to come back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some redemption ten days doesn't matter, but let's assume none of that happens Ten days later, assuming the buyer does not exercise the right of redempt. The borrower does not exercise the right of redemption, the property ownership of the property would transfer to the bank via what's called certificate of title. Okay, and so at that point the bank owns the house, and we had this phenomenon in our industry of what we called the REO, which was the real estate owned property, which was properties that were owned by banks that banks hated that stage, Of course.
Speaker 1:Of course they had to upkeep the property and there was a nightmare for them. So this notion though, that if you default that banks love foreclosures. That's absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2:No, not just that or that or that, if you default on a mortgage at three percent, that the bank quote, tears up the mortgage and resells the house at eight percent. I mean, mr Shift, you skipped 50 steps. You skipped having to. You skipped the part about non accrual. Then you skipped the part about having to fucking file the lawsuit. Then you skipped the part about having to litigate the lawsuit, which, by the way, you're paying along the way.
Speaker 1:By the way, how long can it?
Speaker 2:take right one year, two years sophisticated defense lawyer three, four, five years, I mean. I had a foreclosure of my career. Was like a nine-year case.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna eat right, okay, it was a disaster and so by then, what can happen?
Speaker 2:number one, this Fentum margin that he was talking about between, like reselling it at eight percent and three percent, is eaten up in fees, time carry, costs of the property, upkeep, property taxes, which the bank has to pay. Okay, so there's all these amounts that would insurance right.
Speaker 3:Have a pissed off owner Inside the house that no longer gives a kid, gives a rat's ass. Right the collider on the fucking property here that would put by the way, the term of art.
Speaker 2:You know what that's called in the law waste when. When property like suffers, like lack of upkeep, when you're the owner and you're you're destroying the property, that's called waste, okay. And so you know, all these things just just make it so that that was just a false.
Speaker 1:But here people would put concrete down the toilet on their way out, oh yeah, so they would fuck the pipes up.
Speaker 2:So you have to rip the whole plumbing out.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 3:I mean it's just not fun for the banks. It's just so I forget. I've seen the kitchen's gone.
Speaker 1:I've seen yeah, they get those. What are those clothes companies called?
Speaker 3:they come in and um they just stripped the house down.
Speaker 1:But there's a company that was called the salvage salvage the higher. They get a salvage company. Pay them a cup, they get a couple bucks for and it take. Everything happen.
Speaker 3:It's I the wire out of the wall the wire.
Speaker 2:But that links back also to the social media thing, because what happens is that it's like listen, listen as listen. As a real estate lawyer, I honestly do not expect the non-lawyer, okay, to understand the nuances. Sure, right, because what to the owner? The bottom line is the same my house is no longer mine. Okay, like my house who cares?
Speaker 3:who hasn't taken from somebody else?
Speaker 2:I get it, but what? But the problem is, though, that in this, in this time, where we're like, you know you can, everyone has a microphone, kind of like us. I mean, you know, and you see it, you see it on some of the comments, some of the comments that we got this week, we're like who the fuck are these guys? It's like a we're fucking nobody, okay. The better question is why are you listening to a bunch of Okay, but but oh, right.
Speaker 3:What does it say about?
Speaker 1:your daily.
Speaker 3:All right, you got a lot going on. Your fucking, I'm a nobody. You're fucking, you're listening and you're commenting.
Speaker 2:You're so motivated by what you say, you're like oh my fuck this guy.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna type something up, but but I do want to thank everybody. The negative comments have increased dramatically and I really do want to thank you guys. You want to thank you about that guy?
Speaker 2:gold, gold bloom. You killed that guy.
Speaker 1:That was, what was it. What did he? What did he start?
Speaker 2:with some shit, but it was so good because you were like gold bloom can. Can we ask you to fax your comment next?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna make it easier to wipe our ass with it.
Speaker 2:You remember you remember.
Speaker 1:So Richard, early on, richard early on kind of trained me to like call him for every stupid shit that I did. And I remember like I was like dude, somebody sent me a letter that really pissed me off. So I'm like, fuck this guy, I'm gonna go to the bathroom, I'm gonna wipe my ass with it and I'm gonna put it back in the fucking envelope and I'm gonna send it to the guy I remember and I remember calling Richard and telling dude, you know what? Fuck this guy, I'm gonna just send him the, I'm gonna wipe my ass with it, I'm gonna send it to him and everything. He's like dude, it's like a federal Offensors.
Speaker 3:I don't remember why I talked to you.
Speaker 1:Nowadays.
Speaker 2:I'd probably encourage that. Yeah, how I run up with that. That's the thing you go to jail for right, I remember but the thing is that it would have been a great story. Man wipes his ass with letter and sends it back. Florida man, florida man.
Speaker 1:The problem is that at that particular moment I had enough of my fucking plate. So like I was kind of listening to Richard to be like listen bro, like I just got to get out of everything that I'm doing, you know I mean, but yeah, that, imagine you imagine that guy opening the letter and like and like, uh, and and and.
Speaker 2:No, and realizing what you did right is amazing.
Speaker 3:Like right, like the letter, the letter he sent me, oh my god, he wiped his ass with my letter.
Speaker 2:I mean it's. It's actually very funny nowadays.
Speaker 1:I probably yeah, I mean I do Do it and we'll deal with it. Listen, it's, it's unadvisable.
Speaker 2:Unadvisable, but funny.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I think I might even enjoy defending you.
Speaker 1:I want to see where this goes. Yeah so that guy. Yeah so the guy I told him what would the claim be?
Speaker 2:I don't even know what the claim would be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you told me it was a federal Sending shit through the mail. It was more like a, a government.
Speaker 2:I don't know maybe like a postal thing, you gotta have the ups, and maybe I looked it up.
Speaker 3:I have no idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll tell you what. Like I said, nowadays I would. Honestly that would be an interesting the weird things I've looked up for right now. Well, now I know, now I know that I'm kind of, it seems like I'm in the clear- To wipe my ass and send it to, but I had to do that before I know, I think.
Speaker 1:World beyond notice.
Speaker 2:The all clear has been yes, yeah, so what you send over here, bro, you might get it back. Yeah, so what I told?
Speaker 1:what I told the guy, the comment, that comment. It was like yeah, why don't you just fax us your next comment so we could just wipe? We could be easy for it.
Speaker 2:It'd be easier for us to wipe our ass or work. It was funny. I actually felt bad for the guy after that. I'm like damn, he stepped in shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me tell you that a lot of these guys stop, they stop. I would never stop, like if I was them, like I'm in it already, like a lot of these guys just disappear, which I find interesting. I wonder if they don't get our comments.
Speaker 3:Maybe the? I think that it's the nature of social media.
Speaker 1:It's look people they shoot first and if you shoot back, they kind of like run and hide people people will.
Speaker 3:They're used to taking and putting their opinions out there and not having to defend them, and I think it's the reason why we've seen the breakdown of the rhetoric so much, even our politics and stuff like that. You know, you just call somebody a name and then run away and there's like no, no need to take and defend your ideas and I mean, I don't know. I I enjoy very much talking with people that think differently than me, especially one-on-one, like when they're in groups it's hard, but one-on-one when you talk about somebody that that disagrees with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah and just having the ideas hammer back and forth. I I enjoy that process and you know it's always try to keep it respectful and listen and that's why listen.
Speaker 1:I think the worst thing that Richard ever did, that damn chat that we're on that is just. It is absolutely the worst thing in the world but is and I think it's also really necessary like to keep us sharp. There isn't a day that goes by guys, guys, let's comment now.
Speaker 2:Let's let's follow up on on one of the prior things we talked about, which was tabla constitution, and this Tabla is another word that it's, it's, it's.
Speaker 1:the exact translation is wooden board, I guess right board. But it, it, it. It means that you can take it. You have thick skin, yeah, yeah, yeah, you have thick skin.
Speaker 2:Right and and so, just so you guys know, we used to, we used, we still have this chat where we would talk about cryptocurrency. It started right and then in that chat there were some guys and we would occasionally like Veer into politics because these guys would say things that made no sense, like the imminent collapse of the. Us dollar you couldn't regulate, you know whatever just things that make no sense. And so there was this one guy who stood out to me as as particularly um, politically problematic, and so I thought one day.
Speaker 2:I woke up one day and I'm like you know what, man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give this guy some information. It started with like I thought I would be it was a good intention.
Speaker 1:It was a good. Yeah, I thought. I also think that you were worried that, bro, there was a lot of friendly fire there. There was a lot of people that that, that that were just getting hit and bombarded with these tax measures. That were normal civilians, right, right, right, right. And we were like collateral damage where we were trying right.
Speaker 2:They didn't deserve to move the the politics.
Speaker 1:That's well. Let's move the tougher skin people to this chat. Yeah, yeah, and just leave the softies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pretty much on the other one. So, man, I made the mistake. Yeah and I'm willing to say it, I I made a grave error of starting this aside from the FHC thing in addition, and remember we today, these are infrequent.
Speaker 1:So we're now reporting them for posterity right now the joy of Life-aggress.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah and man.
Speaker 2:I started this chat and there isn't a day that goes by I don't see a text. You know, I'm so close to just like leaving.
Speaker 1:Well, what people don't know?
Speaker 2:that would unleash uneven worse.
Speaker 1:Are you okay? I don't want to ridicule, so everyone.
Speaker 3:Oh Right.
Speaker 2:I got beat. I couldn't take it. I mean it would be so it would be worse. Yeah, it would be worse, so it's well, I would add you back on.
Speaker 1:I would add you back on right.
Speaker 2:No, I'd be adding back on in four seconds and then every and then, every day would be like careful bro, he might leave the channel.
Speaker 1:I mean, I can, I can script. Well, I guess we're Going to.
Speaker 2:I can script.
Speaker 1:Be careful what you say around, richard. Uh, you got a sensor. He might get offended leave the chat.
Speaker 2:So it's like, bro, no matter how Taxing it is bro on my mental health. No, I just got it, bro, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about the good things about it, because it keeps me very sharp. There's no amount, there's nothing that these commenters could say, because what happens, is that what? The reason why people don't like doing this, what we're doing right now, is because you open yourself up to screw to attack, to attack and and like you're worried about what public opinion?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I often say to myself I'm like when will this be a mistake? So far it's been good, but like one day we're gonna say something's gonna be a disaster, as soon as we get a little bit more popular.
Speaker 1:Right, I think, then it's gonna be more problematic. Yeah, but I think, I think, I think we should be smart enough to navigate it. You know, I mean, and I also think that when the day comes, we just wipe our ass with it and we continue on.
Speaker 2:I think the problem when you start paying attention to it, you don't have much fucking choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 3:So I think I think it potentially can close options off to.
Speaker 1:you is the one down and we also know that there's there's a couple of particular landmines that we stay away from.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're good and we all kind of know what they are, but today you've been good at just putting your foot on the mine, but just not taking it off.
Speaker 1:I put a little object on top of it that's not heavy enough to explode.
Speaker 2:A woman should be a woman. I just I was like wait what I mean. Listen.
Speaker 1:I'll go listen and here's the thing I'll go in front of that. There's certain things that I really like, that, yes, women should not, men should not, participate in men's, in women's sports. I mean, there's certain things that I could you mean biological men because, because he's really a woman.
Speaker 1:Right. So anybody who's gone through puberty as a man should not be, should not be. You know a part there's certain things that they're just out there and it is what it is, and whoever wants to come after you for that, I mean, it is what it is. But I think we're pretty good at you know navigating these.
Speaker 2:So there's another comedian man that he does that too, talking about the navigating. I'm trying to find the clip. So I'm sorry we're not giving you guys credit but we're being very clear that these aren't our jokes. But there's a guy that he's on there yesterday and he's like you know so many. He's like have you ever noticed how we kind of fuck up in language? The white guys fuck up in language by by, where they put like the bad word when they're talking about? You know other, you know races of people you know. And he's like you know because you know you could be like sitting there at a cafeteria or you're on the street corner, whatever, and you'll hear like a guy saying he'll be like no, because I was talking to this Asian motherfucker, and you don't even hear it. You don't even hear it, bro. Like you don't even hear it, no problem bro.
Speaker 1:Nothing happened.
Speaker 2:It goes on, but then he's like the white guys. We usually get this wrong. We're like you know I'm talking to this fucking Asian and people are like whoa, whoa, whoa what's the matter with you? You know, he's like if we just if we just move where we put the bad word? So many jobs could be saved.
Speaker 1:Why, why, why? And what I never understood is why is it wrong to say that Asians are good at math, for example?
Speaker 2:Why is that?
Speaker 1:No, it's not that, it's well you can get, you can call an Asian whatever you want, that's fine.
Speaker 2:The problem is that it's not that it's the issue of the stereotype which, even though it's like a complimentary fact, harvard, I got it.
Speaker 1:Harvard had to change. They got caught changing the math test so that they wouldn't be able to fucking, so they would score or would be Chinese Harvard.
Speaker 2:I'm not nearly as funny as Louis CK, so I won't repeat it, but if you're interested out there, if you're listening, I guess the best pull up a little, but go K bit a bit that he does about called it's called benign racism. Ok, and it's amazing, the guys. I mean it's hysterical.
Speaker 1:By the way, if we call ourselves comedians, we can get away with everything too. That's another thing. I mean, I don't know not too many comedians, I mean.
Speaker 2:Dave Chappelle can get away with everything and he, to me, he's, he's the the foremost genius.
Speaker 1:Right, but Louis CK well got him in trouble, it wasn't no, it was.
Speaker 2:No, it was a jerking off in front of, in front of everyone he assigned gender to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But man Chappelle to me is the is the greatest comedic genius there is.
Speaker 1:I mean seriously. Of course, you know what he did. You know what he did, Completely wet.
Speaker 2:So yeah, just kept on going and doubled up, but dude the guy is, I mean, his jokes are the best yeah, yeah, especially because like they just ring. So true, that's what people find the.
Speaker 1:Chappelle show, I mean it, just it, you know. And again he makes fun of white people, he makes fun of everybody.
Speaker 2:He says it too. He's like I'm an equal opportunity.
Speaker 1:He busts a ball buster, yeah, and that's what I don't understand, because in my regular life I make fun of everybody. Yeah, me too, I make everybody right. It's part of our charm. It's just everybody. It's just everybody gets it right. But then why is there a certain group or certain groups that have to be separated from that? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:That's the part that confuses, because again it was like we should probably leave this alone before we start going a little to that clip of big victim hood man.
Speaker 3:It's the same thing that that idea that there is a whole group of people out there, that they're very existence is to tell people why they should not be able to let it roll off their back, why they should be offended and why this is somehow keeping them from success. You cracking a joke about somebody is part of the systemic method that has been founded the the, the Illuminati behind the scenes pulling the pulling the strings. I believe they can keep.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to say something Never mind, yeah, yeah, just by the way, did you see we're smart enough to navigate, yeah.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, so let me interview somebody who's actually humble Like I've never, okay.
Speaker 1:so how does it work? Are you actually humble? You're like I don't want to tell anybody, or do you catch yourself and be like, no, I don't want to tell anybody because I want to be humble. So what is it exactly? Walk me through the fucking point where you're going on Fox News and getting interviewed, right, and then don't tell anybody. How does that happen?
Speaker 3:If I had to be really honest, the reason why? Probably I wasn't super impressed with the work that I did there. I mean I was glad that I did it, it was a good experience, but I didn't feel like it was my best work and I mean, look, it's part of how I was raised a little bit too. I mean you and I have talked about it. You know, like you're a fan of the, you know the celebrating the touchdown thing I was always Barry Sanders was my favorite player. The guy would take and pair people's ankles off, hand the ball to the referee and walk off the field Like it was yeah like he's done it before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's not even so much that.
Speaker 3:It's just like, even when I wrote my book right, when I wrote my first book and my first group, my first Latin girlfriend, was there. I finished the book right and I'm like talking about the next thing I had to do and she's like stop, you wrote a freaking book, go out to dinner, throw a party, something. It's just I don't like, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I get it, I get the pretend you've been there part and it happens with my son. Like when somebody beats my son, like it doesn't matter what fucking tournament it is, they celebrate like it's the fucking Super Bowl Bro I'm talking about, like they jump on each other and it's the fucking, it's the funniest thing. And I explained to him like dude, you know, you've realized, like you are the trophy, the trophy doesn't really matter anymore, like when they beat you, that's the situation.
Speaker 1:And you know, on his own, when he beats anybody he just fucking walks off. I'd never coached him on that, but here's the problem with that. Nowadays I don't know if you guys how sports. Yeah, I know you're not a big sports guy. So, nil, you know everything changed what a couple of years ago with the.
Speaker 2:NIL. When you say NIL, n-i-l, n-i-l, whatever, I just want to make sure people know what we're talking about. I'd never heard. For all I know it's NIL, but I've never heard of it referred to.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I've just, I've been calling it NIL, maybe it is N-I-L, but whatever Name, image and likeness You're allowed, for many, many, many years you weren't allowed to sell your name, image and likeness Like you couldn't.
Speaker 2:You were playing for Unless you were a professional athlete.
Speaker 1:Unless you were a professional athlete, so you were the best football player in the world. You couldn't go out and sell a t-shirt with your name in college. You couldn't go out and sell a t-shirt with your name on anything else. But here's the problem now, and this is where it gets tricky, right. So it's being a showboat is profitable.
Speaker 3:Yes, Right, it's an income strength.
Speaker 2:It just is Right and if you don't do it, you're missing out.
Speaker 3:And the issue winds up being right. All of this ties back to one of my favorite subjects to teach. I thought I would have hated it when I got it, but it's ethics, the idea of who we're becoming. I mean, is it making us better as a society and as an individual? No man. And realistically, is this doing damage to people's psyche and souls?
Speaker 2:and I mean really making it less the societal decay is at going a thousand miles Absolutely, but in my son's sport-.
Speaker 3:What happened to Rome in thousands of years is happening so in my son's sport, right?
Speaker 1:well, let's call it. It's not football, it's not basketball, let's call it one of those that there's no future, there's no, there's no. Maybe the UFC or not, maybe for sure the UFC, and now they've merged so it's a WWE or whatever right, but there's not really any money in it unless you're a showboat. So now I mean the numbers that are getting thrown around these. Imagine a fucking wrestler, that who gives a fuck. Have you ever watched a wrestling match? Maybe you have right, but right and you probably will never.
Speaker 3:You just got judged by the way, Even those guys who in this room is most likely that's racist? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's because you're black and I was like I assume that you think you're right.
Speaker 1:So if, dude, there's guys that are getting paid $250,000, $300,000 a year to fucking wrestle, but it's not only how good you are, it's what's your social media following how much shit talking.
Speaker 1:But in a sport, for whatever reason, that sport is very cat-alike. There's very humble like you have to be, and there's one of a really good wrestler described as like so much. You gotta be overly humble. And what's happening now is that that's gonna break because, dude, you gotta start talking shit right now. So you're wrestling a guy, right? Nobody cares if you're gonna beat the guy. Now, all of a sudden, you say you know what, fuck you? You beat me when I was in elementary school and I've been thinking about it my whole life and I'm gonna fuck you up. I don't know, whatever you know. And now everybody cares like, oh dude, this guy no man, this guy's been holding that grudge for 10 years and you're selling it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just like the Colorado Colorado State game. The fucking coach was like oh, I take. You know, my mom taught me to take my glasses off and my hat off when I'm talking to people. It's like dude, you're at Colorado State bro, nobody fucking knows who you guys are. You guys suck, you're not gonna do shit. And then it's like Deion. Then Deion turns around and you know, then there's Five glasses. Yeah, no, no, no, right. Then now everyone on his team wears fucking glasses, bro, and like all these kids are wearing glasses.
Speaker 2:And you see them and they film the practice and it's like, oh, you made it personal. And it's like it's just fucking.
Speaker 1:But I've always Conor McGregor, the best you know I was. Look, I caught myself. He is probably not the best fighter, he's probably top 20. He's made the most money by far. He was born with a gift and he is a phenomenal ball buster and shit talker.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about the wittiest Don't hold that in the walk.
Speaker 1:No, no, no but have I sent you a clip of the shit that? I mean he is a witty, witty, funny son of a bitch. I mean he is ruthless too, on the ball busting. I mean that guy is high, high level.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, at the end of the day, it puts asses in the seats and I mean here's the thing.
Speaker 2:I mean Muhammad Ali, great example, probably the, if you want to point to the guy yeah, the genesis of the shit talking my father hated Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 3:He went to pay to go to Madison Square Gardens to get front row seats to watch Joe Frazier break his jaw, and I was like he loved it because he hated how much shit.
Speaker 2:So here's the thing paid to walk the booth, Wasn't it? Down goes, frazier.
Speaker 3:I mean, like Ali won, like Ali won. Well, no, no, no, no, there was three fights. Oh, I see, yeah, and so I don't know shit about boxing.
Speaker 2:I'm not a big boxing fan.
Speaker 3:Well, actually I think it was forming that knockoff. I don't know George Foreman that knocked out Frasier, but Frasier was a tough, tough guy. I mean really the pounding Zach I took really impressive. But it works both ways because that evil guy, people go pay to see him get the shit kicked out of him. Oh yeah, oh yeah, right. And so there's. It's not just the fans that attracts the people that like that person, it's the people that hate that person, and that's the reason why you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1:In the UFC there's a guy, chael P Sunan, right. He calls himself the gangster from Wesleyan Oregon, right? Is he good? He's good, but he's fought every. He's all the biggest, some of the biggest fights in the UFC. From Chael P Sunan. I mean so much so he calls himself the gangster from Wesleyan Oregon, right, and Wesley Gordon, wesleyan Oregon is like St Coral Gables or so he plays.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? So nobody, which means a fancy neighborhood where there are no gangsters.
Speaker 1:I remember looking at it and like fuck bro, like let me look at it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I Googled Wesleyan Oregon.
Speaker 1:I'm like fuck, it's Oregon, this doesn't sound like you know and Wesleyan Oregon, and it's the most picturesque.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I looked at property values and they were like in the millions. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And he's, and then he'll give a speech and you know, and again, so he's, you know talking the shit, and he gives a speech, he goes. You know what? My dad, I saw my dad one time. You know, the tires were wasted on our Mercedes. I mean he makes like the most fucked up obstacles, supposedly like a rich kid would go through. You know what I mean? I didn't have a maid till I was 14. Like shit, like shit, like so. But this guy, my own room, right Right right.
Speaker 1:So this guy, this guy's fighting, this guy's fighting the toughest guys, the guys that did go through the you know, and he's fucking making so that those, those are the things that that makes sense right now, the, the non branding the marketing the branding the in your face the.
Speaker 3:Katie, you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying Like it's just in it, and to add to your point yeah, that's, that's, that's considered a decay of society, when you can't even be humble Because I was telling my wife, they had they.
Speaker 2:I'm like listen, we should, you know, like my daughter's a cute little girl and like she hits the golf ball and she looks, she's little and she like smacks it and I'm like man, we should like start a page of like you know, girls golf, a girl golf centric page. And we should like, you know, like the way you dress her is amazing, or her little outfits, her little swing, her shoes and my wife completely, she took a gigantic shit on me. Well, by the way, she's like we're not doing that.
Speaker 1:Okay, but, by the way, you will do it at some point. Okay, when she starts winning these big tournaments, because again she'll start getting sponsorships and everything. But let me tell you something, and that's one thing my son has a an Instagram page. I had, my daughter one, and I shut it down for and I'm going to, I'm going to restart it again, but, dude, the amount of sick fucks, right, that's the problem, right, but I manage it, so it doesn't really matter. Like, if people think that they're talking, they're talking to me. You know what I'm saying? It's like so, so, so, we, we both use it. But what do people say? Oh, hey, how you doing.
Speaker 1:Hey, you look great in that picture Want some candy hey yeah, wow, your abs are amazing and, and I'll play along with it sometime I want to see how far and this is at once. This is 20 times Shock. So now I see the pages and I could already I could tell there's an MO. You know, there's not that many followers and the pictures are brand new. Like they put a bunch of them, but you look at the date. So I've already gotten real good at at at spotting out which the sick fucks are. But yeah, with, their game is is, try to get a picture from the kid, yeah, and then they'll embarrass the kid but they'll say, hey, I'll show, I'll tell your parents that you showed me this picture, if you don't show me more. And by the time you know it, they're meeting him at a fucking gas station and they're and they're getting raped. You know what I mean. So that's, that's the. So it's fucking.
Speaker 1:So, so don't, ever don't ever, ever give them like actual access, I mean until they're old enough to like want that kind of activity. You know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, it's, it's so, listen, man.
Speaker 2:I mean it's like the gymnast, the LSU gymnast, livy Dune. I mean she's not so my understanding is that she's not much of a. I mean obviously she's, she's a college.
Speaker 1:And what's the last time you watched the gymnastics?
Speaker 2:I mean, she's not going to she's not going to the Olympics, but fuck, she's the highest paid female athlete in college sports. Right, right, olivia Dune Right.
Speaker 1:She's the highest paid female athlete.
Speaker 2:Three million a year or something like that no, no, no, no and like dude the the videos about those calendar twins or whatever those?
Speaker 2:The videos of the meets of the LSU gymnastics meets, the people there, I mean, it's thousands of people to see her and in fact, recently she came out and she had to, like you know, make us make statements because, like there was, there's this video that was circulating, it went viral of the other gymnasts coming out from both teams, from all the teams that were at the meet and these guys were there screaming. You know, we want Olivia. Where's Livy? You know, fuck you, you fucking. It's like, you know, like talking down to the other one.
Speaker 1:What the hell do we care about your story?
Speaker 2:flip yeah, and it's, and you know she had to come out and say you know this is very disappointing. These are my teammates, but by you know the whole thing.
Speaker 1:but yeah, she's she's, she's okay, yeah, as a gymnast in a sport that nobody gives a fuck unless your kids in it.
Speaker 2:She's I mean she's. I don't think you can say that she's hot. I didn't say that, I'm just saying she's very popular. You know, and, and it's funny, you know who else to the the basketball the Cavender twins, but they actually I respect them big time.
Speaker 2:They came out recently in an interview and they were asked you know, what do you think about all the negative comments that people make about you, that you know you're only popular and you're only making money because you show your bodies and shit like that? And they flat out like, admitted it. They were like, yeah, we know it, we know it's true and and you know, listen, we don't feel bad about it, like we want to give back and we want to figure out how we can help and all that.
Speaker 2:But it's like look, this is, you know it's like it's like I always say you know, you play with the toys God gives you that's right.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And so you know, it's like that's today's world. Man, we got to wrap it up a little bit, that's it.
Speaker 3:No, I think. I think that the point and the one piece I wanted to add in is just, you know, we have done so much to move away from toughness and and really praising toughness.
Speaker 2:No praising softness, we praise softness and what I'm saying is we got?
Speaker 3:away from praising softness. We don't. We don't praise people we don't tell stories about. I share them with you all the time my chesty puller stories and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, have you told him that this chesty puller funny name, by the way.
Speaker 3:but but um, it was his nickname. His name is like Lawrence, but the guy the guy had like a big chest. It was like the most decorated Marine in US history. The guy winds up in Guadalcanal. So if you know what happened in Guadalcanal, the US Navy went and dropped our troops there and then they got overwhelmed by the Japanese Navy.
Speaker 3:And so they left they left our troops there on Guadalcanal and this guy chesty puller about 600 troops and without realizing it, they wound up taking on an entire Japanese division of 12,000 troops with, you know, the Navy and modern day.
Speaker 3:Spartan, my, my, my Navy guys are out there. Well, we didn't abandon them. We were night supplying. The average Marine between August and December lost 40 pounds on Guadalcanal. So what happened? Did the Marines get wiped out? Forget getting wiped out. They raided the Japanese and stole their food, took the airfield themselves, the 600 Marines against the 12,000, they pushed the Japanese back every step of the way and held and took more of the island until the Navy came back. The quotes are given. That quote, no, the quote is from the Chosin Reservoir. So the same guy went to the Chosin Reservoir in in Korea, which is when the Marines, the 12,000 group of 12,000 Marines, was entirely surrounded by the Chinese, the two UN groups that were up there with them both got wiped out by the Chinese.
Speaker 3:So the Chinese came across the border. That's how the Korean war wound up. We get it, want to get pushed. We had pushed the Koreans, the North, the North Koreans, all the way back almost to the border of China. And then we didn't realize was the Chinese had come in and come in behind our troops and completely enveloped them. So the UN, two UN groups, completely wiped out the Marine group. Yes, who happens to be there? Chesty Polar. He winds up in a situation they have over 100,000 Chinese surrounding them. They managed to not only kill like 25,000 Chinese, including Mao's son, right, they managed to get out with all their wounded, all their, their dead, all their equipment and 50,000 refugees they bring with them, right. So they say to Chesty when they find out they're enveloped. They say to him the enemies are in front of us and behind us and they flank us on both sides. His response they can't get away from us now.
Speaker 2:What a badass Bro.
Speaker 3:Even better, bro. Even one of my favorite lines of this story is that and I'll leave you guys with this OP Smith was the general on the ground with these Marines. They interview him, the first interview with the guy. They say to him Mr General, how did you manage to enact sucha masterful retreat? He says retreat. Marines don't retreat, we just attack in a different direction.
Speaker 1:But he also said the one that he perfect we could shoot in any direction, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Don't worry about it. We could shoot in any direction. We can't miss a mile I mean, but I mean his troops. This guy was notorious for being the toughest training guy out there. He'd march his guys 30 miles. They'd never complain. They'd follow him to the end of the world because they'd say we'd march 30. Chesty would march 45 miles, marching back and forth, checking on everybody to make you know you file that's tough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great quote too. I'll leave you with this one from Ayn Rand's book Atlas Shrugged, which, by the way, is an incredibly popular book. I think it sold, I think, at least 15 years ago, 20 years ago, when I read it. As of that time, it had sold more copies than any other book in history other than the Bible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a great book, and what's it called? It's.
Speaker 2:Atlas Shrugged. It's an amazing book.
Speaker 3:It's about if all the people that are the producers decide to walk away and go on strike and leave it to everybody else that wants some wants handouts.
Speaker 2:The author Ayn Rand grew up in Soviet Russia and she was completely against communism, and, and, and, and and, a little nuts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I, I, I, I. I cannot tell you I'm, you know, pro-rand but yeah, and a little nuts.
Speaker 2:But so there's a fictional character in there that owns a newspaper. The guy's name is Gail Winnand, okay, and the guy was a tyrant, okay, and like you know, the work and the way the guy worked and the guy, the way the guy made people work, and one of the lines in the book that really stuck with me was that he says she said the effort he expected from his employees was unbelievable.
Speaker 1:The effort he expected from himself was impossible, you know, and so talking about quotes, one thing I've been wanting to do and I'm going to do it now. So I guess the only people in on the Joker, the people that actually listen to this, I'm going to do those quotes like with my picture, and and and. But like we're like, like get like Aristotle quotes and put my fucking name on the bottom.
Speaker 1:I want to see how long it takes for these people to start talking, so the only people in on that joke are the ones that are listening to this, so enjoy it as these quotes start coming out with my name on it.
Speaker 2:Amazing. Yeah, all right guys. Later, until next time.
Speaker 1:Don't worry about dirt.
